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Scott Morrison is an embarrassment to democracy. The Prime Minister does not need to ‘ask’ if it’s right or wrong what Porter did taking money from a blind trust. It’s ethically wrong and the Prime Minister should declare it’s wrong and ensure laws and rules are changed and the liberals should kick Porters a** to the kerb. I'd take back Rudd, Abbott, even Julia over this fool.

Years ago women couldn’t vote. It was the law. It was wrong. Just because it’s the law doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.
I agree in principal, however it would be wrong of the P.M to not to seek legal advice, that would put him in a compromised situation. What will be interesting will be his response, when he does get a directive, then if he doesn't act it will tar him with the same brush.

From your media link.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has sought urgent advice on whether the “blind trust” arrangement being used by Liberal frontbencher Christian Porter to fund his legal bills is in breach of the ministerial code of conduct.
“The Prime Minister is seeking advice from his department on any implications for the Ministerial Standards and any actions the Minister must take to ensure that he meets the Standards.”
 
I agree in principal, however it would be wrong of the P.M to not to seek legal advice, that would put him in a compromised situation. What will be interesting will be his response, when he does get a directive, then if he doesn't act it will tar him with the same brush.

From your media link.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has sought urgent advice on whether the “blind trust” arrangement being used by Liberal frontbencher Christian Porter to fund his legal bills is in breach of the ministerial code of conduct.
“The Prime Minister is seeking advice from his department on any implications for the Ministerial Standards and any actions the Minister must take to ensure that he meets the Standards.”
The PM is giving Porter a chance to get out of this. Smart thing to do.
Porter will need to get permission from the donor. My guess Gina Reinhardt. If she doesn't agree I don't know what Morrison's next step will be.
 
I agree in principal, however it would be wrong of the P.M to not to seek legal advice, that would put him in a compromised situation. What will be interesting will be his response, when he does get a directive, then if he doesn't act it will tar him with the same brush.

From your media link.
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has sought urgent advice on whether the “blind trust” arrangement being used by Liberal frontbencher Christian Porter to fund his legal bills is in breach of the ministerial code of conduct.
“The Prime Minister is seeking advice from his department on any implications for the Ministerial Standards and any actions the Minister must take to ensure that he meets the Standards.”
You dont need legal advice to tell you something is morally and ethically wrong. Just like you don't need your wife to tell you raping women is wrong because you have daughters.

This clown needs to stand up for something in life. Drain the swamp.
 
You dont need legal advice to tell you something is morally and ethically wrong. Just like you don't need your wife to tell you raping women is wrong because you have daughters.

This clown needs to stand up for something in life. Drain the swamp.
You still have to go through due process, otherwise you end up with another banana republic. Which when we do become a republic, we will no doubt descend into anyway. ?
If there has been rules broken, he should be thrown out, but I doubt accepting donations, is a criminal offence.
But your example, shows why due process has to be followed, otherwise ridiculous parallel's are drawn and lynch mobs start up.
Isn't shooting from the hip, one of the traits that you guys blasted Trump for, now people are encouraging our P.M to shoot from the hip.
I guess it just shows, the issue and the person, is more important, than the principle of processes and procedures.

By the way if we drained the swamp, Canberra would become a ghost town.:xyxthumbs
 
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Interesting comments by the U.S and U.K, regarding the subs and what looks like a new alliance between Australia, the U.S and U.K.
From the article:
In a joint statement, the three leaders said AUKUS would also leverage UK and US expertise to bring cyber, artificial intelligence and quantum computing capabilities to Australia.

Thanking "that fellow Down Under", US President Joe Biden said the new partnership would ensure the three countries had the most modern capabilities to defend against "rapid threats".

"We're taking another historic step to deepen and formalise cooperation among all three of our nations, because we all recognise the imperative of ensuring peace and stability in the Indo-Pacific over the long-term," Mr Biden said.

"We need to be able to address both the current strategic environment in the region and how it may evolve, because the future of each of our nations, and indeed the world, depends on a free and open Indo-Pacific."
The leaders said they aimed to "bring an Australian [nuclear submarine] capability into service at the earliest achievable date".

Also from the Guardian.

Before now, the US has only shared its nuclear propulsion technology with the UK, in an arrangement dating back to 1958, but a senior US official said “This is a unique set of circumstances.”

Nuclear power will allow Australian attack submarines to remain at sea for as long as five months and operate more quietly than the country’s existing Collins class diesel powered vessels, allowing them to better evade enemy detection.
 
The PM is giving Porter a chance to get out of this. Smart thing to do.
Porter will need to get permission from the donor. My guess Gina Reinhardt. If she doesn't agree I don't know what Morrison's next step will be.
Im thinking wrong iron ore company
 
You take your joys where you can ...And the view looking down is;
Porters political career as the turd in the bowl slowly steeping waiting for the flush.
Not even the 'spending more time with the family' trope will cut it. Their the amung many that want him least.

For those 'Bananas' proffering the 'idea'? that top level cabinet ministers accepting many multiple Hundred thou$and dollar donations from 'anonymous' donors is 'OK'; if it's within the rules....???
welll.... best of luck with the democracy they want to live in.. Best you reach for a dictionary and find the meaning of Plutocracy & Kleptocracy.... Marfia state also comes to mine.

It's the strength of your Institutions that make for the bedrock of anything that resembles even a half decent society... No surprises as to why Porter & Schmo see a Federal ICAC as 'kryptonite'.
 
You take your joys where you can ...And the view looking down is;
Porters political career as the turd in the bowl slowly steeping waiting for the flush.
Not even the 'spending more time with the family' trope will cut it. Their the amung many that want him least.

For those 'Bananas' proffering the 'idea'? that top level cabinet ministers accepting many multiple Hundred thou$and dollar donations from 'anonymous' donors is 'OK'; if it's within the rules....???
welll.... best of luck with the democracy they want to live in.. Best you reach for a dictionary and find the meaning of Plutocracy & Kleptocracy.... Marfia state also comes to mine.

It's the strength of your Institutions that make for the bedrock of anything that resembles even a half decent society... No surprises as to why Porter & Schmo see a Federal ICAC as 'kryptonite'.
Good summation @orr .
Porters toast and I'm pretty sure anonymous donations aren't o.k.
 
You take your joys where you can ...And the view looking down is;
Porters political career as the turd in the bowl slowly steeping waiting for the flush.
Not even the 'spending more time with the family' trope will cut it. Their the amung many that want him least.

For those 'Bananas' proffering the 'idea'? that top level cabinet ministers accepting many multiple Hundred thou$and dollar donations from 'anonymous' donors is 'OK'; if it's within the rules....???
welll.... best of luck with the democracy they want to live in.. Best you reach for a dictionary and find the meaning of Plutocracy & Kleptocracy.... Marfia state also comes to mine.

It's the strength of your Institutions that make for the bedrock of anything that resembles even a half decent society... No surprises as to why Porter & Schmo see a Federal ICAC as 'kryptonite'.
Actually, Albo nails it in this article. ?
From the article:
Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese argues accepting money from unknown sources makes his job untenable.

"There is such a stench around this and around Christian Porter. All that is missing is a cloud of blowflies. This stinks," Mr Albanese said.
 
As we said, Porter is toast, done, gone.
From the article:
Mr Porter will remain in parliament and a member of the Coalition government but will move to the backbench. It is unclear at this moment if he will contest the coming federal election.
 
As we said, Porter is toast, done, gone.
From the article:
Mr Porter will remain in parliament and a member of the Coalition government but will move to the backbench. It is unclear at this moment if he will contest the coming federal election.
I read his record as a Minister.
Even without this incident he has been a failure, achieving nothing of note and failing to progress the corruption commission.

I am sure his removal will be a plus for Scomo as now he can put someone better in.
 
I read his record as a Minister.
Even without this incident he has been a failure, achieving nothing of note and failing to progress the corruption commission.

I am sure his removal will be a plus for Scomo as now he can put someone better in.
You know you have got problems, when Dutton is outperforming you. ?
He certainly has proven, just because someone performs well at the minor league, doesn't mean they will perform well in the major league.
 
Shane Dowling's Kangaroo Court website is always interesting.

Just saw a story going deeper into the reasons why ScoMo was sacked as by John Howard in 2006 as Managing Director of Tourism Australia.

 
Shane Dowling's Kangaroo Court website is always interesting.

Just saw a story going deeper into the reasons why ScoMo was sacked as by John Howard in 2006 as Managing Director of Tourism Australia.

Interesting Bas, just read the article and I can't see where he his accused of lying or asking someone to lie, maybe another defamation case in the wings?
Sounds like he was sacked, because he didn't get on with the tourism minister, I don't think that would be a first.
Maybe you have more info and or insight?
But I can understand the mob has moved on, which is good, it keeps the pollies on their toes. :xyxthumbs
As I always say, the truth has a way of coming out and most things are self resolving.
It is also good that some of these bloggers bring issues up, as long as they not running a personal agenda, Dowling from memory had a bit to say about the Shorten rape accusations. So at least he isn't being one sided. :xyxthumbs
 
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Interesting Bas, just read the article and I can't see where he his accused of lying or asking someone to lie, maybe another defamation case in the wings?
Sounds like he was sacked, because he didn't get on with the tourism minister, I don't think that would be a first.
Maybe you have more info and or insight?

The Kangaroo Court story is actually referencing another journalistic expose by The Saturday Paper. That is the story which explores why ScoMo was sacked in the first place.



Thirteen years after Scott Morrison was mysteriously sacked from a senior public sector job as managing director of Tourism Australia, a six-month investigation by The Saturday Paper has created the clearest picture yet of the events surrounding his dismissal.

Documents obtained by The Saturday Paper under freedom of information laws show Morrison received a pay rise less than a month before he was sacked, taking his annual base salary from $318,031 to $332,030, with discretion for his employer to add up to 2.5 percent on top.

Around the time of Morrison’s dismissal, it was suggested he was paid out after having his contract terminated more than a year early. Sources have since confirmed this.

It was long speculated that the sacking was the result of a personality clash between Morrison and Bailey or differences over her plans to restructure the agency.

But late last year, The Saturday Paper uncovered an auditor-general’s report from 2008 examining the handling of three major contracts, which had delivered a scathing assessment of Tourism Australia’s management.

The report provided the first indication as to the real reason Morrison was removed.


The contracts were worth $184 million, and the auditor focused most on the two biggest – those with companies M&C Saatchi for global creative services or advertising campaigns, and Carat for media placement.

The audit report revealed that information had been kept from the board, procurement guidelines breached and private companies engaged before paperwork was signed and without appropriate value-for-money assessments.


Both before and since becoming prime minister in August last year, Scott Morrison has refused to answer questions about why the tourism minister took the unusual step in July 2006 of sacking him as head of the agency. He has also refused to answer questions about the handling of the contracts, which were signed the previous year. He did not respond to questions for this story before time of press.

 
Well this will be interesting, maybe it explains the subs? ;)
I still can't see, where he asked John Howard to lie?
One thing though I think the way things are looking ATM, this will be the last thing on peoples minds.
Things are starting to look very ugly on the markets IMO.
 
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Well this will be interesting, maybe it explains the subs? ;)
I still can't see, where he asked John Howard to lie?
One thing though I think the way things are looking ATM, this will be the last thing on peoples minds.
Things are starting to look very ugly on the markets IMO.
I reckon it should be the first thing on peoples' minds if we go into another downturn with a trillion dollar debt.

I just don't think buying subs of any sort is economic sense for Australia given they are unlikely to be used in combat.
 
I reckon it should be the first thing on peoples' minds if we go into another downturn with a trillion dollar debt.

I just don't think buying subs of any sort is economic sense for Australia given they are unlikely to be used in combat.
Australian having nuke subs without actual nukes just means an expensive mess in our backyard. Scomo has basically p1ssed all our trading partners off over the last two years. Considering the size of our debt, we need trade more than war.
 
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