The ScoMo Government
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Yeah mate your Labor bagging will deflect the fact YOUR liberal party are running the $hit showMaaaaaaaaaaaaate, you wouldn't vote for anything other than Labor if you were threatened with death, but unfortunately you are a minority.
Labor have to appeal to everyone, not just cashed up bogans and inner city elites, that is the issue.
When the majority voted for Morrison, it showed how far out of touch Labor were, they will get your vote anyway.
The issue is they need mine and other mainstream Australians, they already have the rich and the rusted on.
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The franking credits debacle was a scam, that is why they dropped it, it was dumb twiggy gets his, you get yours, silly billy got his, the ones who were living on $hit lost theirs.
Dumb then, dumb now, will always be dumb, just to get SMSF to put their money into the industry funds, it got exactly what it deserved.
I don't bash anybody, that doesn't deserve a bashing, unlike yourself.
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My missus has a cholesterol of 3.2, walks 5 k's a day, did 800k's on the Munda Biddi from Albany in 15 days on her own.
Blood clots I don't think will be an issue.
But thanks for the heads up. ?
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I suspect you've had a similar experience to me here. Could be wrong but that's what I'm thinking:
Labor's traditional support base, blue collar and other highly unionised workplaces, isn't filled with people with a string of letters after their name. It is however filled with people who are very good at making things happen and at grasping that A + B in due course does = C.
I recall very well an assortment of discussions, union meetings and so on years ago and there was a definite shaking of heads at the time. Keating was the PM then, so 1990's, and there was a very clear thought that government was going down the wrong path and that in due course we'd end up pushing the middle class into the lower class. A society with a few rich and everyone else relatively poor.
At that time there were no shortage of academics and politicians on both sides insisting that they knew best and that with all due respect these guys with the spanners really ought to stick to their trade. Free trade and a level playing field will make everyone better off they promised, meanwhile getting rid of "inefficient" state-owned utilities and so on whilst outsourcing everything done by governments that isn't in an office would save everyone a fortune.
Hardly a day went by without "internationally competitive", "microeconomic reform", or "level playing field" being uttered by politicians of the era and I mean that literally, those terms were almost constantly in the news.
A quarter century later and it's not hard to see who was right. It wasn't the academics and it sure wasn't the politicians. Those who work on the factory floor may not have an economics degree but they were dead right that swapping manufacturing and intellectual things for coal mining, low value services and turning universities into businesses wasn't going to end at all well.
I'd vote Labor, even if they proposed higher taxes, if they were going to use the money to reverse the situation in a credible manner.
Get manufacturing back up and running on a massive scale. Turn universities back into institutions of excellence aimed at research and teaching Australian students. Fix our education and health care systems. And so on. Fixing actual problems not trivial distractions or playing politics.
No but you dont seem very vocal on issues that dont concern you unlike me
Just keep your focus on Labor even though the franking credits debarcle never happened keep trotting it out to make yourself feel good
Considering its the scomo thread how is something that never happened relevent
Yep keep trotting it out in the scomo thread after how many years of libs
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Absolutely, at a management/union eba discussion in the early 1990's, management said they wanted to introduce competency standards and reduce the amount of apprentices they employed.
I spat the dummy and said "you and the government are a disgrace and will rue the day you decided that" and it has proven true, yet I'm slagged off at by supposed 'new' union people.
It is indeed a weird world, IMO it goes back to the old idiom, you can only reason from experience.
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No the reason is, only people like you voted for them and there isn't that many people as well off as you.
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No, most did vote the same way and labor has had a major reshuffle due to only being able to get FW's like you to vote for them.
Are you delusional? or taking prescription medication?
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It's a key part of the reason ScoMo's in power in the first place.
Labor basically threw the last election and the end result is the only other party that has reasonably broad support was elected by default.
The Coalition didn't win the last election, Labor lost it. That's a point of nuance but an extremely relevant one and why they keep getting mentioned.
In contrast, in WA at present Labor clearly has public support that's undeniable. They clearly won on the strength of actual support, people actually wanting them to govern.
The Coalition being in government at present is akin to getting on the sports team not because anyone wanted you but because they needed someone to make the numbers up. You're on the team despite not being able to hit the ball but it was either that or nothing so they gave you a go. Doesn't mean they don't realise you can't play the game.
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Mate I'm vocal on anything where I see an injustice, I'm just not selective about the injustice, as you seem to be.
An injustice perpetrated by labor is just good policy, an injustice by the coalition is terrible, that is where we differ to me an injustice is an injustice.
And who is currently runnig the place and when was the last injustice
Lets focus on clot Mo
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FFS smurf, don't start trying to explain the obvious, that is way beyond @Humid.It's a key part of the reason ScoMo's in power in the first place.
Labor basically threw the last election and the end result is the only other party that has reasonably broad support was elected by default.
The Coalition didn't win the last election, Labor lost it. That's a point of nuance but an extremely relevant one and why they keep getting mentioned.
In contrast, in WA at present Labor clearly has public support that's undeniable. They clearly won on the strength of actual support, people actually wanting them to govern.
Versus federally where it would be really stretching it to say the Coalition has broad public support. Rather, it's that the Coalition was seen by many as the lesser of the evils.
It's akin to getting on the sports team not because anyone wanted you but because they needed someone to make the numbers up. You're on the team despite not being able to hit the ball but it was either that or nothing so they gave you a go. Doesn't mean they don't realise you can't play the game.
He is so rusted on a 9" angle grinder with a cutting disk couldn't move his ar$e.
Maybe an oxy lance could, but there would be $hit everywhere, having said that it seems there is $hit everywhere anyway, so it may be worth a go. ?
bothNo, most did vote the same way and labor has had a major reshuffle due to only being able to get FW's like you to vote for them.
Are you delusional? or taking prescription medication?
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Well like I said earlier, I don't see the coalition doing much ATM, other than treading water, but having said that the last twelve months has been crap.
So IMO, the next period until the election is critical for both parties, one of them has to resonate with the electorate as to where we go from here. And at the moment the critical issue appears to be renewables.
At the moment we are in the starting stalls, labor has put out some feelers as to subsidising BEV's and home batteries, which is important for Australia because we need $hit loads of storage to go carbon zero.
The Libs are squeezing the generation companies, to stump up the money, to supply the storage and the incentives.
So IMO it is a bit of a game of poker, labor are hoping the commitment of taxpayer money to make it happen will sway voters, the coalition are hoping the incentive for generators to supply packages to keep customers will make it happen.
Interesting times.
The media are throwing crap around about roll outs, this vaccine that vaccine, but I think most like me will just wait and see.
Look mate I dont give a rats about whats shaping up how about owning what is happeningWell like I said earlier, I don't see the coalition doing much ATM, other than treading water, but having said that the last twelve months has been crap.
So IMO, the next period until the election is critical for both parties, one of them has to resonate with the electorate as to where we go from here. And at the moment the critical issue appears to be renewables.
At the moment we are in the starting stalls, labor has put out some feelers as to subsidising BEV's and home batteries, which is important for Australia because we need $hit loads of storage to go carbon zero.
The Libs are squeezing the generation companies, to stump up the money, to supply the storage and the incentives.
So IMO it is a bit of a game of poker, labor are hoping the commitment of taxpayer money to make it happen will sway voters, the coalition are hoping the incentive for generators to supply packages to keep customers will make it happen.
Interesting times.
The media are throwing crap around about roll outs, this vaccine that vaccine, but I think most like me go i'll just wait and see.
