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What I find exceedingly frustrating about fire management is the incredible arrogance of those in charge.

They have these massively over inflated egos that delude them into thinking that they can put any fire out whenever they want to

As has been shown, that is total bull****

We need to be defensive, we need to respect the power of Nature, perhaps we need to turn back the clock a few decades and be afraid of nature, we need to take steps to remove fuel whenever we can.

As I said previously, if winters are hotter it seems rather logical that summers will also be hotter as well. So therefore, winter is still the best time to hazard reduce.

I can understand it is very hard for anyone in the public eye to stand up and say "we were wrong" but that is what is needed and until the recommendations of every enquiry are enforced it will keep right on burning
 
macca said:
What I find exceedingly frustrating about fire management is the incredible arrogance of those in charge.

They have these massively over inflated egos that delude them into thinking that they can put any fire out whenever they want to

As has been shown, that is total bull****

We need to be defensive, we need to respect the power of Nature, perhaps we need to turn back the clock a few decades and be afraid of nature, we need to take steps to remove fuel whenever we can.

As I said previously, if winters are hotter it seems rather logical that summers will also be hotter as well. So therefore, winter is still the best time to hazard reduce.

I can understand it is very hard for anyone in the public eye to stand up and say "we were wrong" but that is what is needed and until the recommendations of every enquiry are enforced it will keep right on burning
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I agree with you Macca, but the media just wants you to say, "it is climate change and we if we stop burning fossil fuel, it will fix it", then it will be all good.
I actually don't understand, why everyone doesn't just say o.k, then they might shut up.
Then kids can stay in school and learn their times tables and we can get on with controlled burns.:roflmao:
Why not just let the coal fired Power Stations shut down, and let people live with it, just regulate how much power people can consume.
Put meters on each house that are card or cash operated, you only can use what you pay for, the poor will learn to budget and the rich can pay to run their McMansions.
They used to have coin operated gas meters in the U.K years ago, I reckon it would sort things out really quickly, coal fired Stations wouldn't be required, because people would be a lot more aware of what they use.:2twocents
It is like water and water restrictions, if everyone was on a tank, they would soon learn how to conserve water.:xyxthumbs
We are being run by inner City FWS.
 
SirRumpole said:
You would have to put an ATM is every house now. :)
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We have just had our two month summer power bill, two A/C's one 7Kw split the other a 5Kw split, double storey two living areas. Downstairs small 3x2, upstairs 90sq/m 1x1 with kitchen lounge.
So with 6.6Kw of solar and being careful, running the A/C's during the day and shutting down at sunset, the electricity bill $70. That isn't bad IMO, for three adults and two kids.
 
sptrawler said:
Put meters on each house that are card or cash operated, you only can use what you pay for, the poor will learn to budget and the rich can pay to run their McMansions.
They used to have coin operated gas meters in the U.K years ago
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Pay As You Go electricity was introduced in Tasmania mid-1990's and later was also offered by Aurora Energy (Tas govt owned) in SA.

Long story short, national rules changed and mandated that the PAYG meters had to be read by a meter reader. That task turned out to be rather problematic since one common reason for someone choosing to install PAYG was that the meters weren't readily accessible - eg they'd built a wall or sun room or have a big dog or whatever which wasn't a problem given nobody had to come and read them.

So reading these meters was a substantial logistical task with appointments and so on. End result is it no longer exists and all the meters have been physically replaced with what were termed "Advanced Meters" in Tas, this being to avoid use of the term "Smart Meter" (which is exactly what they are) because some clowns have convinced a few people that smart meters are the devil's work.

So no Pay As You Go, national rules didn't like that, and no Smart Meters just in case one jumps out of the switchboard and attacks someone in the middle of the night or something like that. :2twocents
 
basilio said:
I suggest one could put some sort of electronic control on a smart meter to regulate the amount of power that is used. For example you could have an indoor monitor that showed in real time your power consumption. There may be a way to flag "excessive" use .

Certainly not beyond technical possibilities I would have thought.
https://reductionrevolution.com.au/products/watts-clever-smart-digital-energy-monitor-ew4500
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It would be very easy, just put a current transformer on the incoming cable and have a display in the house showing instantaneous power usage, then people could see exactly how much power is being used when various appliances are running.
 
Here is the Morrison Government defending free speech.
Just not Bettina Arndt's. With friends like Bolt and Credlin ..how quickly they abandoned ship.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/02/25/remind-me-who-won-the-last-election/
WhoWon_LastElection_Feb2020_20.jpg
 
basilio said:
I suggest one could put some sort of electronic control on a smart meter to regulate the amount of power that is used
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Done in Tasmania back in 1995.

Long story short - it blew up politically along with associated issues in dramatic fashion and came to an abrupt end in 1996.

That debacle still gets the occasional mention in various places (other states) today. If anyone tries it again it’ll be a very slow implementation is my expectation.

Personally I thought it was a decent idea with the whole thing but the general public most certainly did not agree.
 
Smurf1976 said:
Done in Tasmania back in 1995.


Personally I thought it was a decent idea with the whole thing but the general public most certainly did not agree.
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I'm sure that the spectre of "a socialist takeover of our electricity" would have been raised by some.
 
So now the Libs want to jail anyone spending their own ($10k + 1) cash money..?

- Is a note legal tender or not? -like it says on the face
- Wasn't GST about restricting the 'black' economy?
- How long will the $10k max limit last? Thin end of the wedge

Who's the real PM? Seems to me it's Trent Zimmerman
Ban on $10,000 cash purchases set to become law despite concerns. Laughing Liberals will jail people who spend their own money
"Bernie Morrison", by currencylad, February 28, 2020: http://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/02/28/bernie-morrison/#comments
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Logique said:
So now the Libs want to jail anyone spending their own ($10k + 1) cash money..?

- Is a note legal tender or not? -like it says on the face
- Wasn't GST about restricting the 'black' economy?
- How long will the $10k max limit last? Thin end of the wedge

Who's the real PM? Seems to me it's Trent Zimmerman
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Final nail in the coffin for me. I will never vote Liberal again... Ever.... **** 'em.

Have a look at the recommendations just released.... Just incredibly divisive and so dumb.
 
Libs can go get fked.

Shoot it down labor and grab those votes. Libs about to lose a lot of members


See the "Basel III Accord" that Abbott & Turnbull signed us up to. Sold down the river to the banks
 
moXJO said:
Libs can go get fked.

Shoot it down labor and grab those votes. Libs about to lose a lot of members


See the "Basel III Accord" that Abbott & Turnbull signed us up to. Sold down the river to the banks
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Read the Lima agreement/ declaration, the Labor Party signed us up for in the 1970s sunshine.:roflmao:
Isnt finger pointing wonderfull, only limited by your memory.:xyxthumbs
 

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