The ScoMo Government

[PZ99]

Or that Morrison is dead scared of the Right in his party.

More likely out of the party. Don't forget Rupert Murdoch is our unelected head of state.

 

[sptrawler]

More likely out of the party. Don't forget Rupert Murdoch is our unelected head of state.

I think you put way to much importance on Australia.

 

[PZ99]

I think you put way to much importance on Australia.

Someone's gotta do it. Especially if Australia is going to be held to ransom by some corrupt clown from within the corporatocracy and outside of the country...

Yoga for beginners ?

 

[sptrawler]

Someone's gotta do it. Especially if Australia is going to be held to ransom by some corrupt clown from within the corporatocracy and outside of the country...


Yoga for beginners ?

I actually think Murdoch probably gives as much thought to Australia, as we do to outer Botswana, we may have some junior miners and explorers there but do we really care?
I think there is a huge amount more political involvement, by the other media in Australia, than by Murdoch. But I don't care either way, I try and develop my own opinions on political merit rather than journalistic opinion.
I actually take a lot more counsel from the posters on here and their opinion, than what is written in newspaper opinion columns, at least it is debated here by people from varying backgrounds and experiences.
In the newspapers it is one persons take on a given subject.
Just my opinion.

 

[PZ99]

I think your first sentence sums it up. Murdoch doesn't think about Australia at all.

All he thinks about is maximising the amount of money taken out of our country by using his political party disguised as media outlets to undermine our democracy and government.

Not the sort of thing I want my taxes supporting.

 

[sptrawler]

I think your first sentence sums it up. Murdoch doesn't think about Australia at all.

All he thinks about is maximising the amount of money taken out of our country by using his political party disguised as media outlets to undermine our democracy and government.

Not the sort of thing I want my taxes supporting.

I haven't looked into it, but I would think Murdoch's earnings from Australia are a minor portion of their income.
Like I said, I think we have a very high opinion of our relative worth in the World.
Just my opinion.

 

[PZ99]

If Murdoch's takings from here are a minor % of their revenue then that makes it worse because it makes his trolling of our political system disproportionately pointless.

Personally I don't care how much money someone has. But if they use their wealth to corrupt our governments and policies and laws then I think they need to called to account.

 

[sptrawler]

If Murdoch's takings from here are a minor % of their revenue then that makes it worse because it makes his trolling of our political system disproportionately pointless.

Personally I don't care how much money someone has. But if they use their wealth to corrupt our governments and policies and laws then I think they need to called to account.

Just looking at the headlines, in the various daily papers online, I would say there are far worse trolling going on than the Murdoch press.
But it probably depends, if you agree with the trolling or not, if the trolling aligns with your personal beliefs it is probably classed as news .

 

[PZ99]

Just looking at the headlines, in the various daily papers online, I would say there are far worse trolling going on than the Murdoch press.
But it probably depends, if you agree with the trolling or not.

Obviously it depends upon your own point of view and beliefs. I would say there is far worse trolling going from the Murdoch press than anywhere else, and that's over a long period of time.

I remember a Murdoch owned newspaper influenced an election by posting birthday suit pics of Pauline Hanson which turned out to be fakes afterwards. Campaigns against Turnbull, Rudd etc

It's all there on the record

 

[IFocus]

Just looking at the headlines, in the various daily papers online, I would say there are far worse trolling going on than the Murdoch press.

I read the Australian most days and am continually surprised by many of the opinion peaces extremely poor quality and the gymnastics that go on to put the Coalition in a good light and how the commies are going to over run us.

There really isn't any other media group or publication that follows this business model in Australia.

A good example of how crazy the Murdoch empire suppresses its journalists is David Speers latest writing after leaving.

 

[Humid]

I haven't looked into it, but I would think Murdoch's earnings from Australia are a minor portion of their income.
Like I said, I think we have a very high opinion of our relative worth in the World.
Just my opinion.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the...d-s-biggest-lng-exporter-20200106-p53p5h.html

 

[sptrawler]

Obviously it depends upon your own point of view and beliefs. I would say there are far worse trolling going from the Murdoch press than anywhere else, and that's over a long period of time.

I remember a Murdoch owned newspaper influenced an election by posting birthday suit pics of Pauline Hanson which turned out to be fakes afterwards. Campaigns against Turnbull, Rudd etc

It's all there on the record

Just check the SMH or AGe any day of the week, but in reality it really doesn't bother me, they all probably balance each other out.
The reality is, the voters have their say and as was shown last election, it isn't always what everyone expects.
I think your observation, that the working class are the swinging voters is absolutely correct and i think they get their information from all sources.
Newspapers and the T.V current affairs programmes don't have the effect they once had, now with social media the young don't read newspapers and don't watch current affairs, from my observations. I know my middle aged children don't, the guys down at the local pub don't and we don't.
So really the only people actively engaged, are those that watch T.V or reading the papers for positive confirmation of their beliefs, sort of preaching to the converted.

 

[sptrawler]

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the...d-s-biggest-lng-exporter-20200106-p53p5h.html

Sorry I wasn't meaning it in a monetary context.

 

[sptrawler]

I read the Australian most days and am continually surprised by many of the opinion peaces extremely poor quality and the gymnastics that go on to put the Coalition in a good light and how the commies are going to over run us.

There really isn't any other media group or publication that follows this business model in Australia.

A good example of how crazy the Murdoch empire suppresses its journalists is David Speers latest writing after leaving.

I never read it.
But with regard your comments, just read the SMH to get a counter opinion on the above, so it should balance.
I read the stock tipping section, in the complimentary Sunday Times, while I'm having my seniors coffee at Maccas.

 

[PZ99]

Just check the SMH or AGe any day of the week, but in reality it really doesn't bother me, they all probably balance each other out.
The reality is, the voters have their say and as was shown last election, it isn't always what everyone expects.
I think your observation, that the working class are the swinging voters is absolutely correct and i think they get their information from all sources.
Newspapers and the T.V current affairs programmes don't have the effect they once had, now with social media the young don't read newspapers and don't watch current affairs, from my observations. I know my middle aged children don't, the guys down at the local pub don't and we don't.
So really the only people actively engaged, are those that watch T.V or reading the papers for positive confirmation of their beliefs, sort of preaching to the converted.

That's all fair enough but when you have a Murdoch backed group undermining our PM and ultimately getting him replaced halfway through a term I think that's a problem because the voters don't get their say. That's why Murdoch came to Australia for a few weeks before it all happened and left afterwards. And this info is coming from within the empire itself - not something the ABC cooked up.

I think we are looking at a royal commission into that group in the not too distant future.

It's utterly corrupt and needs to get blown up.

 

[qldfrog]

Obviously it depends upon your own point of view and beliefs. I would say there is far worse trolling going from the Murdoch press than anywhere else, and that's over a long period of time.

I remember a Murdoch owned newspaper influenced an election by posting birthday suit pics of Pauline Hanson which turned out to be fakes afterwards. Campaigns against Turnbull, Rudd etc

It's all there on the record

Thanks God we have their ABC for unbiaised news

 

[qldfrog]

I thought news ltd was Murdoch?
When you see the CC brainwashing they do, i think our ABC friends should add the link to their feed again..

 

[qldfrog]

ABC disguised crap
News full on crap..and Kardashian...
But i agree ABC has more class and when you can find a non propaganda article, can sometimes even be decent

 

[sptrawler]

That's all fair enough but when you have a Murdoch backed group undermining our PM and ultimately getting him replaced halfway through a term I think that's a problem because the voters don't get their say. That's why Murdoch came to Australia for a few weeks before it all happened and left afterwards. And this info is coming from within the empire itself - not something the ABC cooked up.

I think we are looking at a royal commission into that group in the not too distant future.

It's utterly corrupt and needs to get blown up.

Well you had that with Abbott and now they are starting on Morrison, the only one that they didn't hammer was Turnbull.
But that was because, they were the ones that were pushing to have him replace Abbott.
It happens on all sides, to think it only happens one way, I find is adjusting reality.
Just my opinion and as I said I don't think in reality it makes any difference, I thought Labour were a shoe in last election so did the press, shows people aren't muppets.

 

[IFocus]

I never read it.
But with regard your comments, just read the SMH to get a counter opinion on the above, so it should balance.

Afraid its not balance, most of the media report on the failings of the government and lets face it there is a never ending supply of material (Morrisons holiday what a disaster)plus Labor don't get a free ride ask Shorten, Rudd or Gillard but note they aren't in government not that you would know it according to Murdoch press.

Its actually quite rare I seen one of the big organisations really cook the truth.

Over at the Murdoch press cooking the truth is daily sport and you only hear how wonderful the Coalition are and how nasty those Laborites are that's not balance.