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Baby boomers sitting back payin f all tax telling everyone how it should be.
You lot were at the steering wheel through the decline while the young now fight over your leftovers in the non existent job market
Hypercritical much
 
Humid said:
Baby boomers sitting back payin f all tax telling everyone how it should be.
You lot were at the steering wheel through the decline while the young now fight over your leftovers in the non existent job market
Hypercritical much
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The decline got underway in the mid-70's when the Baby Boomers were aged 10 to 30.

Few if any would've been working in any position carrying real authority in either government or business at that age.

If would be fair to say they didn't stop it but they sure didn't commence it. Same could be said for generation X and the so-called Millennials. Didn't start it but haven't yet done anything to stop it either.

Reality is that the number of people focused on this sort of stuff would be tiny as a portion of the population. :2twocents
 
Smurf1976 said:
The decline got underway in the mid-70's when the Baby Boomers were aged 10 to 30.

Few if any would've been working in any position carrying real authority in either government or business at that age.

If would be fair to say they didn't stop it but they sure didn't commence it. Same could be said for generation X and the so-called Millennials. Didn't start it but haven't yet done anything to stop it either.

Reality is that the number of people focused on this sort of stuff would be tiny as a portion of the population. :2twocents
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Much easier to just point the finger and sing the media song, than think about the issue, that's the problem today.
 
Smurf1976 said:
I think the point being missed is that Australia has lost its competitiveness and tied its future to coal, iron ore and gas far too heavily.:2twocents
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https://www.amazon.com.au/Why-Information-Grows-Evolution-Economies/dp/1536619086

If we dont shift to an information focused society soon, eventually the resources will run out and we will be left with no industry.

We should be using our resources which are limited, to grow our information industries which compound with growth
 
So now the Morrison government will select a favoured group of fire brigade volunteers (the self-employed) and give them $300 a day - while their unemployed and retired mates on the same truck - they'll get nothing!

It's as bad a piece of weak-kneed policy-on-the-run as I've ever seen.

It will come back to bite this government. And the Rural Fire Service, which will see many volunteers walk away.
 
Logique said:
So now the Morrison government will select a favoured group of fire brigade volunteers (the self-employed) and give them $300 a day - while their unemployed and retired mates on the same truck - they'll get nothing!

It's as bad a piece of weak-kneed policy-on-the-run as I've ever seen.

It will come back to bite this government. And the Rural Fire Service, which will see many volunteers walk away.
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I am an avid critic of Morrison and the Liberals in general but I think given the exceptional circumstances any previous Liberal PM from Turnbul, Abbott or Howard would have jumped at the chance to come up with some thing right across the board for some sort of compensation for the exceptional service these volunteers are doing not just a patch work reluctantly.
 
I'm just disappointed by the inequity.

Alright, exceptional circumstances - so say a one-off payment, say $100/day to every participating member - but not $300/day to just a select ideologically approved subset.

It breeds resentment and division within any group. Rural fire brigades -it's overwhelmingly a volunteer organization, people join to make a contribution to their local community.

Not to be treated like 2nd class citizens!
 
It's a tough call.

In my view routine firefighting is best done at the local level by people who know their community and the individual characteristics of the land that they are protecting.

These people are volunteers and should remain so, but they should be able to call on the resources of a larger organisation like the military if the situation gets out of hand.

At the moment, the military don't have the equipment or training to fight fires, they should be so equipped by the government. Local volunteers aren't going to fly helicopters or water bombing aircraft and the military have these resources.

The Federal government is sitting on its hands. They will provide resources when asked, but they show no interest in proactive plans like giving the military the proper training and equipment to assist on the ground when required.
 
Logique said:
So now the Morrison government will select a favoured group of fire brigade volunteers (the self-employed) and give them $300 a day - while their unemployed and retired mates on the same truck - they'll get nothing!

It's as bad a piece of weak-kneed policy-on-the-run as I've ever seen.

It will come back to bite this government. And the Rural Fire Service, which will see many volunteers walk away.
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Well I nominate Barnaby Joyce to be in charge of the fire enquiry etc.He moaned he was cash strapped and then got a job as drought envy.Morrison is unable to produce one report that he produced.Tis said he claimed 600k for that jaunt."Banana republic -septic isle"
 
Umm no....

The payments of up to $300 per day will be available to Rural Fire Service NSW and Qld volunteers who are self-employed or work for small and medium businesses.
 
Its volunteer work people. You join to help the community. But in circumstances like now, where volunteers have been working for an extended period of time then the absolutely deserve compensation if you work.
 
I believe that each brigade has a log of who is where for safety reasons, so perhaps we use those as a basis to pay each fire fighter after X number of hours per year.

The standard week is 38 hours so after a volunteer has done 38 hours in a year they get paid $25 per hour when actually fighting a fire.

I would not count training and maintenance towards the 38 hours as they are elective hours and this then allows the volunteer to still feel like they are giving back to the community as they do now
 
Schmo .... Text book display of a man panicing whilst desperately trying not to look like he's panicing.
Trying to 'channel' Churhill and looking like Chamberlin.
He was at the cricket in the last day or so. Hopefully for us all he'll take a tip for the game and 'retirer hurt'.

Oh and Angus; The Feds have got the 'Garrad' File ... happy new year Gus.
 
Theres a lot of material to be used

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