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basilio said:
Possibly.. ;) But IMV if they or their families start dealing with the trumped up rubbish that the Robo debt processes delivered to New Start recipients there will be some very concerned back benchers.:oops:

Just make up a "debt". Send it out. Demand that the recipient disprove the debt (how exactly ?) or otherwise pay it or they send in the debt collectors.

Delightful way to win friends and influence people - not..

Personally I just think the most appropriate response is a piece of 4x2:D
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I wonder if Tim Wilson will hold an enquiry into it ?
 
sptrawler said:
I thought I was the one with 'conspiracy theory' paranoia. :laugh:
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You think this is a made up story ? Just a conspiracy ?
The proposal seen by the Guardian says the government would:

  • Conduct a pilot of 40,000 income reviews for people aged 65 to 74 this financial year, checking for welfare overpayments from business income and bank interest as well as pay-as-you-go income
  • Develop new methodologies to identify “low risk” sensitive customers
  • And then undertake further “modest pilots” among 10,000 people who live in remote areas or have a “vulnerability indicator” on their Centrelink file in early 2020, before a broader rollout is considered

    The proposal would not require legislation and has sparked fresh controversy about the future of the program, which Labor, the Greens and welfare groups say should be abolished. Two Senate inquiries are set to examine the scheme.


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https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-pensioners-sensitive-groups-leaked-documents
 
And yes there is plenty happening on the climate change front.

But we don't have to have it pushed in front of our face do we ?
 
I don't think it is a made up story, I think the ATO and the Government of the day look at thousands of ideas and proposals.
I was commenting on your post that opened with about seven COULD's in the first three paragraphs.
As for robo debt, I have had several actual incidents with it and from my experience, it was wrong on three occasions and right to the tune of $6,000 on one occasion.:xyxthumbs
I was in contact with computershare today and if you want to talk to a computer they are the ones to ring, computers and data matching are the way things are going to go, whether we like it or not.
I definitely would keep receipts if I was you.
 
sptrawler said:
I don't think it is a made up story, I think the ATO and the Government of the day look at thousands of ideas and proposals.
I was commenting on your post that opened with about seven COULD's in the first three paragraphs.
As for robo debt, I have had several actual incidents with it and from my experience, it was wrong on three occasions and right to the tune of $6,000 on one occasion.:xyxthumbs
I was in contact with computershare today and if you want to talk to a computer they are the ones to ring, computers and data matching are the way things are going to go, whether we like it or not.
I definitely would keep receipts if I was you.
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I wonder how many under payments they find and if they readily cough up the cash to the recipients or just don't bother telling them.
 
SirRumpole said:
I wonder how many under payments they find and if they readily cough up the cash to the recipients or just don't bother telling them.
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I dont think they are programmed for under payments, from my experience they just look for Government payments and recipients income and allowances.
 
Another example of how the government has decided to screw people into the ground. :(

Centrelink wrongly denies disability support pension to severely ill woman
Trish Geidel, who has one lung and cannot leave the house without a mobility scooter, was placed on the lower Newstart payment

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Sun 25 Aug 2019 14.00 EDT Last modified on Sun 25 Aug 2019 14.01 EDT

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Centrelink denied the disability support pension to Trish Geidel, who lives with osteoarthritis, a spinal problem and depression, among other conditions. Photograph: Kelly Barnes/The Guardian
A severely ill woman in her 60s who cannot leave the house without a mobility scooter was wrongly judged as fit for work by Centrelink and denied the disability support pension.

Trish Geidel, of Adelaide, lives with osteoarthritis in her back and knees, a separate spinal problem, and struggles to physically exert herself due to a heart condition and the loss of one of her lungs about 20 years ago.

The 64-year-old has also lived with long-standing depression and said she could not walk much further than the “length of [the] passageway” of the unit she had shared with her husband.

“And I have walked up to the letter box,” she said. “So that’s a little bit further, that’s about 15 feet.”

Ask a policy expert: why is it so hard to get on the disability support pension?
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But Centrelink rejected her claim for the disability support pension, saying she was fit to work for 15 hours a week. She was instead placed on the lower jobseeker’s payment, Newstart, after the death of her husband in 2017.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...ability-support-pension-to-severely-ill-woman
 
The sheer gall and criminality of the Robodebt process "should" have resulted in it being dropped like a hotspud after the first thousands of people proved that the concocted figures were clearly wrong.
But this zombie doesn't die does it ?

I thought this article hammered the point home - basically in the first sentence.

Centrelink debt recovery
Robodebt is an abuse of power. It should never have seen the light of day
Cassandra Goldie

Rather than hunting down people with phantom debt, the focus should be on finding ways to help them. How about lifting Newstart?

Imagine if banks were issuing hundreds of thousands of false debts against their customers and expecting customers to prove them wrong or pay up.

This is how the government is treating people who’ve received income support payments with its notorious robodebt scheme. Three years since its inception, robodebt continues to inflict people with inaccurate debts, forcing them to prove their innocence or pay back money they may not owe.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...er-it-should-never-have-seen-the-light-of-day
 
The simple fact that Schmuck and his troupe of intellectually thread bare underpreforming muppets are crab walking from any thing that resembles a Federal ICAC of consequence, is more than proof of it's a necessity.
Why did this garbling pratt get the sack from Tourism Australia again??? Oh thats right; he's payed off every one who knows not to tell. So if you, out there, do know, you know more than the people who voted for him as PM. It's more than a fair guess that he wouldn't be PM if people did know.

Great work their doing on liquid fuel security.....tragic tragic clowns and their working hard to spread that tragedy to you.
 
We should all start calling him the titanium man. It gives me great pride to see this title bestowed on him by our Amercan friends.

Maggie Thatcher the Iron Woman would probably confer the title to ScoMo also if she was still around.

She was a great leader who turned GBR around and ScoMo I am sure she would have rated highly.
 
Knobby22 said:
We should all start calling him the titanium man. It gives me great pride to see this title bestowed on him by our Amercan friends.

Maggie Thatcher the Iron Woman would probably confer the title to ScoMo also if she was still around.

She was a great leader who turned GBR around and ScoMo I am sure she would have rated highly.
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It's all bs and we know it.

Thatcher was so bad her own party had to dump her.

Let's see if the Titman tries a poll tax.
 
Thatcher was Ok in my book. She did a lot of good but at the end of her reign went too far with the poll tax.


The men in the party were so scared of her they couldn't organise the coup till she was out of the country.
 
Knobby22 said:
Thatcher was Ok in my book. She did a lot of good but at the end of her reign went too far with the poll tax.


The men in the party were so scared of her they couldn't organise the coup till she was out of the country.
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She was the stiff upper lip they needed at the time. Agree that her reign went to far in the end. Sometimes you need a hardass to turn it around.
 
Knobby22 said:
We should all start calling him the titanium man.
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Titanium Oxide 'man' ...very... very, white...too white. artificially white. God awfully white.

Just heard Slomo is coming after your franking credits... Of course only part of a broader inquiry into retirement savings planning. 8pm news on a Friday night, that golden window for announcements for the gutless.
On this one though... go Schmo go ...
Just more proof of the ALP governing from opposition...
 

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