Australian Federal Election - 2019

[Junior]

* Self-funded retirees (fully or partially self-funded).
* Members of self-managed super funds.
* Property investors.
* Small business owners.
* Anyone earning $100k+ per annum.

All of the above were targeted by Labor policies, and identified as individuals who will need to pay more tax. Why is this inappropriate, and why didn't it work? A few thoughts:

* We do not have a budget emergency, we are almost in surplus. Far-reaching tax increases are not required, and will only serve to weaken the economy.
* The language used to support these policies was appalling. Trying to turn one group of voters against another.... YOU deserve a tax cut, whilst YOU are not paying enough. I thought Labor were about inclusiveness? How are retirees supposed to find the extra cash? Go back to work??
* Many of these individuals pay (and have paid) a LOT of tax, and employ people who pay a lot of tax.

Thankfully the approach didn't work. I'm not saying the Coalition are an attractive option, but at least they will get out of the way for a while, and not impose tax hikes with a scatter-gun approach.

As for climate change....well I don't think either side had great policy in this area, and I'm not holding my breath whilst the Coalition still have the ''conservative'' faction dictating policy decisions.

 

[qldfrog]

As for climate change, let's use figure and not emotion , we can not even dent the actual emissions.should CO2 be the cause which i do not believe.. consequence but not cause
So let's get australia ready
City orotection border protection etc
As opposed to tge glivalist left, i i believe a government needs to put its citizen first
In Australia that means remediation and infrastructure strengthening

 

[PZ99]

New Zealand has reported a huge spike in the number of Australians considering a move across the ditch since the federal election was called.

Immigration New Zealand said the number of visits to the New Zealand Now site surged tenfold on Sunday as Aussies woke to the news of a Coalition victory.

The website received more than 8500 visits from Australia on Sunday — about ten times the usual number — and 512 of those visitors registered interest in a Kiwi visa. That’s compared to just 20 people a week earlier, on May 12.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/worl...n/news-story/8f97c4756bc67ddc9e485634922f9da0

Bit extreme? I didn't vote for the Coalition but it's not all bad. They won't have the senate.
We have a few minor tax cuts coming as well as some much needed surpluses.

And if we do have a recession we can blame the Liberals for once instead of the default position of blaming Labor every time they get in.

Life's good!

 

[HelloU]

New Zealand has reported a huge spike in the number of Australians considering a move across the ditch since the federal election was called.

Immigration New Zealand said the number of visits to the New Zealand Now site surged tenfold on Sunday as Aussies woke to the news of a Coalition victory.

The website received more than 8500 visits from Australia on Sunday — about ten times the usual number — and 512 of those visitors registered interest in a Kiwi visa. That’s compared to just 20 people a week earlier, on May 12.

https://www.news.com.au/travel/worl...n/news-story/8f97c4756bc67ddc9e485634922f9da0

Bit extreme? I didn't vote for the Coalition but it's not all bad. They won't have the senate.
We have a few minor tax cuts coming as well as some much needed surpluses.

And if we do have a recession we can blame the Liberals for once instead of the default position of blaming Labor every time they get in.

Life's good!

hey, any thoughts on that ....cos my head struggles with that. what i mean is who is suddenly thinking about going to nz after a lnp win?

logic says it is the peeps that are now going to be worse off in aussie under lnp and see the grass greener in nz - and i am failing to work out who that really is that suddenly want out.

(nz wages growth or something i am not familiar with?)

 

[sptrawler]

New Zealand has reported a huge spike in the number of Australians considering a move across the ditch since the federal election was called.

Immigration New Zealand said the number of visits to the New Zealand Now site surged tenfold on Sunday as Aussies woke to the news of a Coalition victory.

The website received more than 8500 visits from Australia on Sunday — about ten times the usual number — and 512 of those visitors registered interest in a Kiwi visa. That’s compared to just 20 people a week earlier, on May 12.
!

Maybe we could start a go fund me page for them.

 

[sptrawler]

hey, any thoughts on that ....cos my head struggles with that. what i mean is who is suddenly thinking about going to nz after a lnp win?

logic says it is the peeps that are now going to be worse off in aussie under lnp and see the grass greener in nz - and i am failing to work out who that really is that suddenly want out.

(nz wages growth or something i am not familiar with?)

Last time I was there everyone had three jobs, to make ends meet, that's why so many live here.lol

 

[sptrawler]

The ridiculous situation is highlighted by Lynas rare earths, rather than process it here they built the plant in Malaysia, they have had nothing but trouble with the Malaysian Government.
Now they are going to build a second plant in the U.S, why havent they built a plant here?
We get sod all for the raw material, there is no jobs and the material is being removed, weird logic.

I just saw this in the paper, Lynas is going to add downstream processing here, to remove the radioactive component from the raw material, before it is sent to Malaysia and the U.S for upstream processing.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/com...l-no-clarity-on-malaysia-20190521-p51pic.html

Yep, the clever country.

 

[PZ99]

hey, any thoughts on that ....cos my head struggles with that. what i mean is who is suddenly thinking about going to nz after a lnp win?

logic says it is the peeps that are now going to be worse off in aussie under lnp and see the grass greener in nz - and i am failing to work out who that really is that suddenly want out.

(nz wages growth or something i am not familiar with?)

NZ wages are worse than here. I have plenty of Kiwi's arriving at my work for the better money.

Maybe it's an ethnicity thing ?

Either that or half the GetUp! crew have a new assignment there LOL

 

[HelloU]

I just saw this in the paper, Lynas is going to add downstream processing here, to remove the radioactive component from the raw material, before it is sent to Malaysia and the U.S for upstream processing.

https://www.smh.com.au/business/com...l-no-clarity-on-malaysia-20190521-p51pic.html

Yep, the clever country.

i logged back in so i could give a like to that ..... i feel ur pain ....... i am gunna buy some sth oz desert land just in case they need somewhere to put those 44's (half glass full sorta bloke is me)

 

[Miss Hale]

So Plybersek is not running for the Labor leadership after all citing ye olde family reasons as the excuse. I'm surprised as I thought she would have jumped at the chance, plus the Labor voters I spoke to like her. Not to mention she is female, surely Labor aren't going to elect another old white male as their next leader

 

[PZ99]

So Plybersek is not running for the Labor leadership after all citing ye olde family reasons as the excuse. I'm surprised as I thought she would have jumped at the chance, plus the Labor voters I spoke to like her. Not to mention she is female, surely Labor aren't going to elect another old white male as their next leader

If Youtube have a video of her initial speech in parliament it'll be quite easy why she can't run.
Tanya Plibersek is a classic example of how real beliefs get eroded away by the party line.

She's not half the Greenie she used to be

 

[jbocker]

And regulations, bureaucracy
Time it takes to build anything here, the discovery of a secret site and an endangered butterfly the minute you do a building application, etc etc
And then if you run the business, the tax rate on it
I mean seriously, why would anyone build a business in Australia if you can build it elsewhere?
It was a no go for me even to consider opening an it branch here for our international,startup and i need zip infrastructure, can find people here and power is not an issue
No surprise we only have captured audience business here:
duopoly woolies coles, westfield shopping center, a few construction companies, wheat cattle,mining as big companies here
But labour solutions is more taxes....

If we use the same site as the mine for manufacturing then a lot of land issues go away. I know all your points are valid and real, but we need leadership that turns our thinking and culture around for the better, across as many aspects as possible.

 

[gartley]

It's interesting how our dollar has behaved since the coalition took charge back in 2013. It's lost 30% in that time!!!
Probably not related so much because other factors such USD strength and interest rates but still interesting nonetheless...
Totally flies in the face if Morrison's stable economy under their watch.
Is the market right in this instance?In the Labor era preceding 2008 till 2013 it rose from 60c to $1.11

 

[sptrawler]

It's interesting how our dollar has behaved since the coalition took charge back in 2013. It's lost 30% in that time!!!
Probably not related so much because other factors such USD strength and interest rates but still interesting nonetheless...
Totally flies in the face if Morrison's stable economy under their watch.
Is the market right in this instance?In the Labor era preceding 2008 till 2013 it rose from 60c to $1.11

That is a good point as you say Trump and the $U.S, have got a lot stronger but we have gone no where, the Government has been hamstrung by a hostile Senate and nothing has been achieved in six years.
The thing that is really amazing, is the fact they have been returned, it really does show how on the nose Labor was.
Absolutely stunning, IMO, how Labor could have lost that one, truly amazing.

 

[gartley]

Yes it certainly was a shock to many. But actually could turn out to be a blessing in disguise for them.
Last time they got it in 2008 it was just before the GFC. A difficult period for all and didn't make their job easier.
If another crisis eventuates, then it will be the coalition under the pump.

 

[PZ99]

That is a good point as you say Trump and the $U.S, have got a lot stronger but we have gone no where, the Government has been hamstrung by a hostile Senate and nothing has been achieved in six years.
The thing that is really amazing, is the fact they have been returned, it really does show how on the nose Labor was.
Absolutely stunning, IMO, how Labor could have lost that one, truly amazing.

I should've stuck to my original prediction that this result would be analogous to 2004.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/posts/994979/

But as they say at Bathurst - there's always next time

 

[wayneL]

I've just started a new company, offering bulk deals for sore losers to emigrate to NZ. Jobs available are production of quaffable chardonay, stormtroopers in Jacinta's Ministry of Information and Gaol wardens for all the conservatives they are working on fitting up as Nazis.

I hear there is a burgeoning industry for Hijabs and prayer mats also.

 

[HelloU]

If we use the same site as the mine for manufacturing then a lot of land issues go away. I know all your points are valid and real, but we need leadership that turns our thinking and culture around for the better, across as many aspects as possible.

not sure if u were talking radioactive waste here, but i found that comment very thought provoking. the logic is flawless, but could it possibly be allowed? just sprinkle the waste over the pit it came out of.

(kinda reminds me of the abandoned baby whale conundrum in NSW - if national parks fed the poor thing it may have an allergic reaction and die. so they did not take the risk, and it starved to death. as sad as that is, the bit that sticks in my mind is that the whole time the calf was flopping about in the shallows starving to death, the 'authorites' kept a close eye on it from their massive boat with twin 250hp outboards, keeping the trouble makers away who may have tried to feed the thing)

 

[sptrawler]

not sure if u were talking radioactive waste here, but i found that comment very thought provoking. the logic is flawless, but could it possibly be allowed? just sprinkle the waste over the pit it came out of.

(kinda reminds me of the abandoned baby whale conundrum in NSW - if national parks fed the poor thing it may have an allergic reaction and die. so they did not take the risk, and it starved to death. as sad as that is, the bit that sticks in my mind is that the whole time the calf was flopping about in the shallows starving to death, the 'authorites' kept a close eye on it from their massive boat with twin 250hp outboards, keeping the trouble makers away who may have tried to feed the thing)

Then they probably used tractors to haul it onto land and took it to the tip, so that it wouldn't attract hungry sharks, they could go and look for food at a surf beach instead.

 

[HelloU]

Then they probably used tractors to haul it onto land and took it to the tip, so that it wouldn't attract hungry sharks, they could go and look for food at a surf beach instead.

reckon u used one too many words in that post. remove 'probably' and i reckon u would be spot on.

back pats and beers all round after that job was 'successfully' completed.

the whole thing is in the dictionary under 'irony'.