The ScoMo Government

[basilio]

It would be interesting to see what odds are being offered about Oliver Yates chance of winning Kooyong. The next polling of that seat will be fascinating.

I believe Oliver will win a ton of support from Liberals, Labour and the Greens. It is really about exposing the poison of the CC denialists in the LNCP and finding a way to make the conservative parties create a bi-partisan policy on dealing with CC.
https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/paddy-manning/2018/09/2018/1539060033/liberals-climate

 

[sptrawler]

Morrison must be doing something right, the SMH are really cranking up the negative press, on their website.lol

 

[Humid]

https://www.news.com.au/technology/...e/news-story/2dfe1d5bf33277089b14fbdce12600d8

This moron was the best the Libs could come up with for a PM lol

 

[basilio]

You have to hand it to the Libs. When it comes to full on deception, self interest, protecting their friends and blowing their electoral brains out they are Best in Show.

Check out this totally brilliant summary of how Tim Wilson sets up a Parliamentary inquiry into the Labour plan to abolish refundable franking credits. The main submission comes from a stooge group that turns out to be Liberal party hacks and the trucking industry. The main supporters are a company he is both related to and has invested in. Yep. Totally deceitful, self serving and perfect at costing the Libs another 1% of the voters in the coming election.

'Retiree group' lobbying against Labor unmasked as Liberal Party and trucking industry operation
Michael Koziol7 February 2019 — 7:18am

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A lobby group masquerading as a grassroots organisation of disgruntled retirees is actually a network of professional lobbyists involved in the trucking industry and the Liberal Party, with a history of campaigning against Labor government policies.

Defenders of Self-Funded Retirees says it was formed by "hard-working Australians who reject Labor's proposal to impose double taxation and to demonise us". However, the association is managed by Liberal Party member and ACT Senate candidate Robert Gunning, along with a number of Mr Gunning's friends from the trucking lobby.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/po...cking-industry-operation-20190205-p50vvo.html

 

[SirRumpole]

‘If this is the Liberal party, then it has no place for me. I can’t quite explain what has happened but the Liberal party’s culture is sick.’

Great advertising line for Labor.

 

[sptrawler]

You have to hand it to the Libs. When it comes to full on deception, self interest, protecting their friends and blowing their electoral brains out they are Best in Show.

Check out this totally brilliant summary of how Tim Wilson sets up a Parliamentary inquiry into the Labour plan to abolish refundable franking credits. The main submission comes from a stooge group that turns out to be Liberal party hacks and the trucking industry. The main supporters are a company he is both related to and has invested in. Yep. Totally deceitful, self serving and perfect at costing the Libs another 1% of the voters in the coming election.

'Retiree group' lobbying against Labor unmasked as Liberal Party and trucking industry operation
Michael Koziol7 February 2019 — 7:18am

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A lobby group masquerading as a grassroots organisation of disgruntled retirees is actually a network of professional lobbyists involved in the trucking industry and the Liberal Party, with a history of campaigning against Labor government policies.

Defenders of Self-Funded Retirees says it was formed by "hard-working Australians who reject Labor's proposal to impose double taxation and to demonise us". However, the association is managed by Liberal Party member and ACT Senate candidate Robert Gunning, along with a number of Mr Gunning's friends from the trucking lobby.
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/po...cking-industry-operation-20190205-p50vvo.html

And this somehow, is different from unions planting members, in rallies and demonstrations.
Really?

 

[SirRumpole]

And this somehow, is different from unions planting members, in rallies and demonstrations.
Really?

No one is pure in politics.

Evils on all sides need to be exposed.

The sickening thing is the hypocrisy of both sides trying to pretend that they are lilywhite while the others are jet black.

 

[sptrawler]

No one is pure in politics.

.

They are both pure politics Rumpy, that is the problem with politics ATM, it has become about the politicians future not Australia's future. IMO

 

[Humid]

And this somehow, is different from unions planting members, in rallies and demonstrations.
Really?

A taxpayer funded committee holding an inquiry into potential opposition policy is the same
Really?

 

[sptrawler]

A taxpayer funded committee holding an inquiry into potential opposition policy is the same
Really?

I didn't think the committee was actually involved in the rally.

 

[Humid]

I didn't think the committee was actually involved in the rally.

Well one isn’t taxpayer funded

 

[sptrawler]

Well one isn’t taxpayer funded

Well if they weren't there, it wouldn't matter who paid for them.

 

[basilio]

And this somehow, is different from unions planting members, in rallies and demonstrations.
Really?

Totally different SP. Public rallies and demonstrations are just that - public. When they are campaigning for what are perceived as workers interest then unions are clearly part of that cause. Or they should be.

The Parliamentary inquiry set up by Tim Wilson is theoretically supposed to be an investigation into a proposed Labour Party initiative. When the main submissions turn out to be from groups that lie about who they are, and that the the Chair of the committee has a financial interest in it's just wrong.

Conflict of interest anyone ?

 

[basilio]

Geoff Wilson told investors Labor's franking credits policy easy to avoid
Fund manager who said retirees’ livelihoods would be devastated told his own investors they could simply restructure their affairs


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Labor has called for the Liberal MP Tim Wilson to be sacked after revelations Geoff Wilson asked him to set economic committee dates to align with his lobbying efforts. Photograph: Mike Bowers/The Guardian
The fund manager who asked Tim Wilson to coordinate parliamentary committee hearings with his lobbying work once boasted to investors that the impost of Labor’s franking credit policy is trivially easy to avoid.

Geoff Wilson – the chairman of Wilson Asset Management and a distant relative of Tim Wilson – when talking to concerned retirees claimed the reform would devastate their livelihoods but told his own investors that Labor’s revenue claims were “ludicrous” because they could simply restructure their affairs.

Labor has called for Tim Wilson to be sacked as chair of the house economics committee after revelations that Geoff Wilson asked the Liberal MP to set committee dates to align with meetings of shareholders who the fund manager then encouraged to attend and protest.

Tim Wilson has failed to declare at committee hearings that he has a shareholding in two funds managed by Wilson Asset Management through Wilson-Bolger Superannuation Pty Ltd, although he did declare it in his pecuniary interest register.

He has also refused to rule out that Geoff Wilson has contributed funding for the stoptheretirementtax.com website, authorised by the Liberal MP, which encourages people to sign a petition and make a form submission to his own inquiry.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-labors-franking-credits-policy-easy-to-avoid

 

[sptrawler]

Totally different SP. Public rallies and demonstrations are just that - public. When they are campaigning for what are perceived as workers interest then unions are clearly part of that cause. Or they should be.

The Parliamentary inquiry set up by Tim Wilson is theoretically supposed to be an investigation into a proposed Labour Party initiative. When the main submissions turn out to be from groups that lie about who they are, and that the the Chair of the committee has a financial interest in it's just wrong.

Conflict of interest anyone ?

The Gillard Government carbon tax rallies?

 

[Humid]

The Gillard Government carbon tax rallies?

Taxpayer funded?

 

[sptrawler]

Taxpayer funded?

The committee wasn't at the rally.

 

[sptrawler]

Geoff Wilson told investors Labor's franking credits policy easy to avoid
Fund manager who said retirees’ livelihoods would be devastated told his own investors they could simply restructure their affairs

To higher risk products?

This is certainly morphing from an investment forum, to a political one.

 

[Humid]

That’s because someone is messing with Homers nest egg....

 

[HelloU]

A taxpayer funded committee holding an inquiry into potential opposition policy is the same
Really?

respectfully sorta (and actually specifically what the standing committee was established for)

that is the whole point of the committees (the by-product being all the extra allowances and expense claims for committee members - sorta what you do to get extra money when your day job is not so busy) .....

Deputy chair is some labor dude
adam bandt is in there with a heap of others

i do not see the greens peeps or labor peeps (or liberals) handing back any of the extra money they get for this..... year of the pig