The ScoMo Government

[basilio]

The splits in the Liberal party between the moderates and reactionaries has reached the stage of open rebellion. When a prominent Liberal Party leader decides the next election should feature Independent Liberals running against the current party it could only be a blood bath.

Check out his analyis of the current party and suggested platform for such a group.

It is simply impossible for many Liberal voters to vote for a party that:

• works to prevent any action on climate change
  
• has the potential to be controlled by the mining industry or whichever new industry is willing to pay for favours (clubs, internet gambling, pokies, firearms and many more)
  
• rejects the establishment of an integrity commission
  
• rejects donation reform and transparency and promotes members for their fundraising skills rather than policy and communication skills
  
• backs the Adani coalmine, which has no social licence and is inconsistent with our need to tackle climate change; and
  
• regardless of the election result seems to be heading towards installing Tony Abbott or Peter Dutton as the next party leader
  

Liberal voters will align with independent Liberals who have real world experience, who will put the interests of their electorates first and who support:

• tight fiscal responsibility so the country operates within its means
  
• strong border controls, backed by a compassionate approach to the treatment of refugees
  
• free enterprise and small business, balanced with appropriate regulation to ensure competition is fair
  
• transparency, integrity and trust; and
  
• real action on climate change that is consistent with what the science is demanding

Coal, coal, coal and soaring emissions – as a Liberal, I have had enough
Oliver Yates
Trust in the Liberals has been destroyed, and no amount of ‘shuffling the deck chairs’ will change the outcome of the next federal election
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ring-emissions-as-a-liberal-i-have-had-enough

 

[explod]

The splits in the Liberal party between the moderates and reactionaries has reached the stage of open rebellion. When a prominent Liberal Party leader decides the next election should feature Independent Liberals running against the current party it could only be a blood bath.

Check out his analyis of the current party and suggested platform for such a group.

It is simply impossible for many Liberal voters to vote for a party that:

• works to prevent any action on climate change
• has the potential to be controlled by the mining industry or whichever new industry is willing to pay for favours (clubs, internet gambling, pokies, firearms and many more)
• rejects the establishment of an integrity commission
• rejects donation reform and transparency and promotes members for their fundraising skills rather than policy and communication skills
• backs the Adani coalmine, which has no social licence and is inconsistent with our need to tackle climate change; and
• regardless of the election result seems to be heading towards installing Tony Abbott or Peter Dutton as the next party leader

Liberal voters will align with independent Liberals who have real world experience, who will put the interests of their electorates first and who support:

• tight fiscal responsibility so the country operates within its means
• strong border controls, backed by a compassionate approach to the treatment of refugees
• free enterprise and small business, balanced with appropriate regulation to ensure competition is fair
• transparency, integrity and trust; and
• real action on climate change that is consistent with what the science is demanding

Coal, coal, coal and soaring emissions – as a Liberal, I have had enough
Oliver Yates
Trust in the Liberals has been destroyed, and no amount of ‘shuffling the deck chairs’ will change the outcome of the next federal election
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ring-emissions-as-a-liberal-i-have-had-enough

Couldn't have ever put it better Bas. Ears are certainly sticking out, not taking in sound and the brains have drained into the aristocratic/ILLUMINATI/lost into the money thingo pockets.

Shocking wild weather here at Warrnambool, so stay warm and party.

 

[SirRumpole]

Trust in the Liberals has been destroyed, and no amount of ‘shuffling the deck chairs’ will change the outcome of the next federal election

Although stranger things have happened I think the Libs "strike" of minimal sitting days before the next election will do them as much harm as sacking Turnbull. It shows that they fear scrutiny and really haven't got anything to offer.

They really do stink politically.

 

[basilio]

The reactionary rump of the Liberal Party has decided to steamroll local selection committees to protect it's members right to rule. The inevitable consequence will be independent Liberal candidates standing against these trogs in the next election.

It will be interesting to see how preferances are offered in such a scenario.

 

[sptrawler]

IMO Turnbull is showing why he needed to be gone, he is starting to look like Rudd resurrected.
He should try for pre selection with Labor, then roll silly Billy.

 

[Humid]

I think the government is a reflection of the people who voted for it
Raise your hands.....

 

[sptrawler]

I think the government is a reflection of the people who voted for it
Raise your hands.....

Jeez Humid, is that you in the front, with your hand up?

 

[Humid]

Seriously what would a liberal gov offer a blue collar construction worker......

Calm down SP dont get visions of the village people

Its fun to stay at the Ymca
Hope that song gets stuck in your bald head homer

 

[sptrawler]

Seriously what would a liberal gov offer a blue collar construction worker......

They will offer you about the same as Labor will, which is sod all lol, you are the middle income earners that pay all the tax.
Stick that up your sweaty hi viz jacket, Humid.

 

[Humid]

Nah mate they just conned you into thinking you were something you never were
Do you honestly believe you would have what you have now without a union structure in the workplace
Look at labour hire now and mining it’s a race to the bottom flat rate 10 year old rates
HiVis and all

Put your hand up and don’t deny who you voted for by trying to deflect it my way
Homer

 

[Knobby22]

Nah mate they just conned you into thinking you were something you never were
Do you honestly believe you would have what you have now without a union structure in the workplace
Look at labour hire now and mining it’s a race to the bottom flat rate 10 year old rates
HiVis and all

Put your hand up and don’t deny who you voted for by trying to deflect it my way
Homer

The Liberal party founder Menzies specifically created the Liberal Party for the middle class and actually started the wealthy class should look after themselves. And I think they did that for many years.
Of course that was then.

 

[Humid]

I recently did a shutdown in the mid west for a labour hire company.
It was a 1 week shut and the letter of offer stated $45 per hour and I was to be working day shift.
They employ you in Perth and tell you the rate is $32 per hour even though there’s no work in Perth.
On arrival to site I was informed I’d be on nights so I asked what’s the loading for nights and was told to contact the labour hire company.
Anyway finished the shut and the week later I get my payslip email and bugger me days and nights are the same rate who would of thought lol
It gets better even though I did 80 hours my super contribution was 35 hours and you guessed it on the Perth rate of $32.
Liberals looking after the working man since.....never

 

[sptrawler]

I recently did a shutdown in the mid west for a labour hire company.
It was a 1 week shut and the letter of offer stated $45 per hour and I was to be working day shift.
They employ you in Perth and tell you the rate is $32 per hour even though there’s no work in Perth.
On arrival to site I was informed I’d be on nights so I asked what’s the loading for nights and was told to contact the labour hire company.
Anyway finished the shut and the week later I get my payslip email and bugger me days and nights are the same rate who would of thought lol
It gets better even though I did 80 hours my super contribution was 35 hours and you guessed it on the Perth rate of $32.
Liberals looking after the working man since.....never

Well everyone can make stuff up, if you have an issue, you can always contact

https://www.fairwork.gov.au/

Set up by labor,and still the same extra union weighting.

I could tell you about the the time, we had an 8 week strike and two union organisers, sold us down the river. Told us we were going to get everything we asked for, so go back to work as the union was removing their protection, then we got nothing.
One of the organisers became a Labor Senator, the other was one of the best known militant union organisers of the day, a motion was put on the books that they were never to show their face at our workplace again. It was one of the strongest unionised sites in W.A.
That is the fortunate thing about being older you have lived through more things and seen more things.
The union works much harder for the workers, when the Libs are in, when labor are in the worker gets sod all.
When the Libs were in in W.A, Barnett talked about increasing the service charge for electricity, labor and the media screamed it would hurt those who could least afford it.
What did Labor do as soon as they got in doubled it.
Labor doing what it does best, telling people what they want to hear, then doing the opposite.

 

[Humid]

It’s no stuff up mate that’s how they roll.

 

[sptrawler]

It’s no stuff up mate that’s how they roll.

Well unless that is what you agreed to when you signed on, you have every right to go to the fair work commission, they aren't allowed under pay you.
Also the ATO will want to know if they have put insufficient super away for you.

 

[Humid]

Geez mate do you think these grubs don’t know what their doing

 

[Humid]

https://www.afr.com/news/policy/ind...partisan-fair-work-commission-20170323-gv50he

Not to sure about your union weighting either

 

[sptrawler]

Geez mate do you think these grubs don’t know what their doing

Well it sounds like someone doesn't know what they are doing, either you for signing up for work that didn't pay you enough, or them for underpaying you.
The fair work commission is made up of a lot of members.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_Work_Commission

President[edit]

• Justice Iain JK Ross AO (M)

Vice Presidents[edit]

• Vice President A Hatcher (S)
• Vice President J Catanzariti (S)

Deputy presidents[edit]

• Senior Deputy President JM Hamberger (S)
• Deputy President RS Hamilton (M)
• Deputy President PJ Sams AM (S)
• Deputy President A Booth (S)
• Deputy President I Asbury (B)
• Deputy President A Gooley (M)
• Deputy President J Lawrence (S)
• Deputy President V Gostencnik (M)
• Deputy President J Kovacic (C)
• Deputy President G Bull (S)
• Deputy President M Binet (P)
• Deputy President R Clancy (M)
• Deputy President LE Dean (S)
• Deputy President PC Anderson (A)
• Deputy President AC Colman (M)
• Deputy President I Masson (M)
• Deputy President A Beaumont (P)
• Deputy President A Millhouse (M)

Commissioners[edit]

• Commissioner AL Cribb (M)
• Commissioner PJ Spencer (B)
• Commissioner BD Williams (P)
• Commissioner DS McKenna (S)
• Commissioner IW Cambridge (S)
• Commissioner PJ Hampton (A)
• Commissioner MP Bissett (M)
• Commissioner C Simpson (B)
• Commissioner T Lee (M)
• Commissioner S Booth (B)
• Commissioner B Riordan (S)
• Commissioner D Gregory (M)
• Commissioner L Johns (S)
• Commissioner N Wilson (M)
• Commissioner T Saunders (S/N)
• Commissioner T Cirkovic (M)
• Commissioner C Platt (A)
• Commissioner K Harper-Greenwell (M)
• Commissioner J Hunt (B)
• Commissioner S McKinnon (M)

 

[Humid]

I’m really starting to think you are the real Homer Simpson

So run me through the labor stooges in the fair work commission on your list

 

[sptrawler]

I’m really starting to think you are the real Homer Simpson

So run me through the labor stooges in the fair work commission on your list

No one is saying they are union stooges, only that the union has representation, which they didn't have in the Industrial relations commission which preceded it.
I'm really starting to understand, who stuffed up your work conditions and pay, you complained about