ASF Spoilers Thread

cynic · 20 May 2015

Ves said:
Love this sort of thing. Haven't posted any responses, because usually when I've had the chance to check someone else has long figured it out.

Just a thought.... not sure if it's a problem for others, but it's hard to open this thread and not be exposed to spoilers (ie. someone else's thoughts or even the answer).

Would it be possible to have two separate threads - one exclusively for the logic puzzles / riddles and another for discussions of the processes and eventual answers? Shouldn't be too hard to cross-reference between the two with the right headings or post references (Tech/A used to do it in his charting threads). I hope that something like this would keep it in the spirit of community collaboration, because it's great to see, especially in the often maligned general chat section of ASF.

skyQuake said:
Correct!

Well done ASF, you have collectively passed the recommend requirement of 9 and over

Lets see how you fare with the next one

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cynic said:
I think I know the answer to #5, but I'll wait for creation of that other thread.

Edit: and #6 also.

2nd edit: and #5 as well.

My answers:
Answer to #6 the fridge magnet can be used to test if the purport replica is made of iron.
Answer to #5 the fingerprints will be on the bottle of cleaner - he/she couldn't spray it with itself and couldn't use it without leaving his/her fingerprints.
Answer to #4 The woman in pink. All other patrons are dressed in black.

keithj · 20 May 2015

#4 The waiter. When the meal arrives, the waiter is serving oysters, but claiming they are escargots.

cynic · 20 May 2015

keithj said:
#4 The waiter. When the meal arrives, the waiter is serving oysters, but claiming they are escargots.

Darn it!
Foiled again, and all because I don't happen to speak French!

skc · 20 May 2015

keithj said:
#4 The waiter. When the meal arrives, the waiter is serving oysters, but claiming they are escargots.

You are probably correct. Except the restaurant is serving a special creation by a master chef today... Escargots stewed in oyster shells with citrus dressing.

skyQuake · 20 May 2015

4,5,6 correct! On to the next batch

galumay · 20 May 2015

Which #4 is correct? I cant see why the waiter is correct - just because he calls the oysters, snails. Likewise if its the girl in pink, what is the logic?

skyQuake · 20 May 2015

galumay said:
Which #4 is correct? I cant see why the waiter is correct - just because he calls the oysters, snails. Likewise if its the girl in pink, what is the logic?

Those clams/oysters should not be escargots - the waiter is obviously a phony

cynic · 20 May 2015

#4 Escargot is a French dish of cooked snails.

Answer to # 12 : Use the wrench to remove car tyre tubes and tie them to the bag of coins with the rope.

keithj · 20 May 2015

galumay said:
Which #4 is correct? I cant see why the waiter is correct - just because he calls the oysters, snails.

A real waiter would not make such an elementary mistake, therefore he cannot be a real waiter, and can only be bank robber. Gotta think like a 9yo

keithj · 20 May 2015

#7 make a snowball containing the $$ & throw it back over ?

keithj · 20 May 2015

#10. He's not wearing bowling shoes.... everyone else is.

keithj · 20 May 2015

cynic said:
Answer to # 12 : Use the wrench to remove car tyre tubes and tie them to the bag of coins with the rope.

But not necessarily in that order ?

galumay · 20 May 2015

skyQuake said:
Those clams/oysters should not be escargots - the waiter is obviously a phony

Yep, i was trying to overcomplicate it!

galumay · 20 May 2015

#8 the alarm clock in the bookshelf

#11 elephant has a bandage on its trunk!

#9 has me stuck!

keithj · 20 May 2015

#11. It's a bit tenuous but....

The only one actually in pain is the croc. The rest are there for routine appointments.

galumay · 20 May 2015

bellenuit said:
A famous classic puzzle.

You are a criminal found guilty of a serious crime and have been sentenced to death. The judge, being a puzzle freak, decides to give you a chance of avoiding death.

He shows you three closed boxes on a table. You are told two are empty, but the third contains a royal pardon. You are to point to one of the boxes and if it is the one with the pardon inside you will be freed, otherwise you will be put to death.

You point to one of the boxes. The judge, knowing which box contains the pardon, opens the lid of one of the remaining boxes, one which he knows for sure doesn't have the pardon and shows you that it is empty.

He then tells you that he will allow you to change your mind if you want. You can either stick with the box you originally pointed to or you can pick the other unopened one instead. Assuming you do not want to die, does changing you choice increase your chance of freedom or make no difference. Explain why.

The implication is that in opening the remaining box that he knows for sure doesnt have the pardon, the other remaining box does contain the pardon, so switching boxes would appear to increase the chance of freedom!

keithj · 20 May 2015

#9 There's no outlet for the waste products after the hunny is sucked from the flowers ?

And a fun fact from wiki

To produce about 500 g of honey, foraging honey bees have to travel the equivalent of three times around the world

bellenuit · 20 May 2015

galumay said:
The implication is that in opening the remaining box that he knows for sure doesnt have the pardon, the other remaining box does contain the pardon, so switching boxes would appear to increase the chance of freedom!

That wasn't implied. The two boxes that you don't pick will either have one containing the pardon or none containing the pardon. So there will always be at least one of those two that doesn't contain the pardon. The judge opens one of the two that HE knows doesn't contain the pardon and shows you it. The other may or may not contain the pardon as is also the case for the one you pointed to.

If what you said was the implication was correct, then it would mean that you would never point initially to the right box, which is not the case.

galumay · 20 May 2015

bellenuit said:
Assuming you are told the number of blue and the number of red balls in the box at the outset, can you determine the colour of the last remaining ball. You can assume there are at least two balls in the box to begin with.

Yes, both balls are even in number, ie 4 red 2 blue, then you will end up with a red ball. both uneven you will end up with a blue ball, if one colour is uneven and one even, you will end up with the ball that is the same colour as the balls of the uneven number. ( so if 3 red, 2 blue you will end up with 1 red ball)

galumay · 20 May 2015

bellenuit said:
That wasn't implied. The two boxes that you don't pick will either have one containing the pardon or none containing the pardon. So there will always be at least one of those two that doesn't contain the pardon. The judge opens one of the two that HE knows doesn't contain the pardon and shows you it. The other may or may not contain the pardon as is also the case for the one you pointed to.

If what you said was the implication was correct, then it would mean that you would never point initially to the right box, which is not the case.

I think you misunderstand what i said - and I cant understand what you are saying now!

The judge knows the contents of all the boxes.

He knows the box he opens doesnt contain the pardon. Given that we already knew that he knows the contents of all the boxes that implies that the other unopened box contains the pardon in this case.

It doesnt mean i cant pick the box with the pardon, just that i didnt this time.

If you think the answer is that it doenst improve my chance of freedom by choosing the remaining box, then i struggle to see the point of the puzzle. Obviously if the judges actions provide no new information then its 50/50 which box the pardon is in.

(maybe this one is just a really basic and simple puzzle and i am overthinking it??!!)

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