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Garpal Gumnut

Garpal Gumnut

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My contacts in the Right of the NSW Labor Party tell me that they are none too pleased with Kev07 and there is talk of a replacement for him after the next election.

There have been discussions about removing him before the next Federal Election but nobody in NSW has the energy after the recent moves against Rees.

Kev07 is on the nose with many in the party due to his dictatorial and scatological style.

I cannot think of anyone at present apart from John Faulkner, Julia Gillard or Lindsay Tanner with the standing to lead the Party at present.

Interesting times.

gg
 
Its labour so it has to be someone from the same faction as Rudd himself... likely that would be Gillard unless she was a trade off as deputy from rival factions....
 
condog said:
Its labour so it has to be someone from the same faction as Rudd himself... likely that would be Gillard unless she was a trade off as deputy from rival factions....
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Im hearing they are calling on Humphrey B Bear.. They need somone who doesnt lie.
 
Would be pretty surprised if this happens, I know Rudd as peeved off a lot of people from the Left faction of labor and alienated alot of Young labour supporters with things such as internet censorship, gay marriage etc but considering his approval ratings still quite high I think he’s pretty safe. Its probably a pretty safe bet that as long as Labor stay in power we’ll see rudd serve this term and the next with a transition to Julia Gillard.

I also doubt that the minority NSW right state labor faction would have any chance of pushing Rudd from the federal leadership, there just annoyed that he wanted Rees to stay in and not their own croonie.
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
My contacts in the Right of the NSW Labor Party tell me that they are none too pleased with Kev07 and there is talk of a replacement for him after the next election.

There have been discussions about removing him before the next Federal Election but nobody in NSW has the energy after the recent moves against Rees.

Kev07 is on the nose with many in the party due to his dictatorial and scatological style.

I cannot think of anyone at present apart from John Faulkner, Julia Gillard or Lindsay Tanner with the standing to lead the Party at present.

Interesting times.

gg
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Yeah, but you also said the yanks for close to catching Bin Laden, and we haven't heard anymore about that :eek:

Perhaps you should run for PM?!
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
My contacts in the Right of the NSW Labor Party tell me that they are none too pleased with Kev07 and there is talk of a replacement for him after the next election.
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I'm afraid your contacts are just feeding you what you want to hear. Nobody in their right minds would drop someone with a 59% popularity rating.
 
Calliope said:
I'm afraid your contacts are just feeding you what you want to hear. Nobody in their right minds would drop someone with a 59% popularity rating.
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Perhaps it sums up Labor in NSW. From someone interstate it looks like that group of people are more worried about power trips and egos.
 
Calliope said:
I'm afraid your contacts are just feeding you what you want to hear. Nobody in their right minds would drop someone with a 59% popularity rating.
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Mate, his popularity will free fall after Christmas.

He's a control freak and things are seriously out of control.

The Chinese don't like dealing with him
He's made a laughing stock of himself and Australia in Copenhagen.
He has had so many inquiries with nothing to show for all the effort.

And nobody inside the Labor caucus actually likes him.

He has also set himself up by delivering plum jobs to Liberals to be supported by a Coalition Govt.if they win, for the UN Secretary General post.

The UN are a pack of muppets and they think he is better than sliced bread.

And lastly he would much prefer to be UN Sec Gen rather than PM of Australia even if it meant Labor losing.

Perfick.

gg
 
It'll be Gillard the tea lady. Reminds me of Cain followed by Kirner in Victoria's golden years of the Labor party.
 
Why "the tea lady", Fishbulb? Ms Gillard at least seems to have a bit of a sense of humour, and is about 10% less robotic than the dear leader.
 
They would be rudderless. (groan)

Gillard would be quite good as a leader. A much better communicator than Kevin.
 
If people think that Rudd is a contol freak I would have to say that that is what a leader of a nation is supposed to do. How would we go with Barnaby Rubble in charge of the nations finances - cant even control basic process of thinking before speaking. Unfortunately for all of us the state of the Liberal oppositions
throughout the country is in an appalling state and we end up disasters like Labour in NSW.

For me, Julia Gillard has been exemplory and so far I have no fault to find. She is articulate, intelligent, has humour, compassionate and is an excellent speaker on the floor of parliament. She puts 80% of the boofhead males in both houses to shame.
 
Julia said:
Why "the tea lady", Fishbulb? Ms Gillard at least seems to have a bit of a sense of humour, and is about 10% less robotic than the dear leader.
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Well, Gillard, and I don't know why exactly, brings to mind the old fashoned factory tea lady.

"There ya go luv, want milk with that? How about some scones?"

No matter how many public speaking lessons she takes, she will never lose her essential Strine.

Less robotic than Rudd yes, and also, a lot further to the left I suspect.
 
On "The Insiders" last week, Annabel Crabb related a personal anecdote about Julia Gillard.

Ms Crabb's parents are farmers. They are dyed in the wool Liberal voters.
Mr Crabb apparently named a young animal (I forget which kind) after Ms Gillard.
The reasoning was that the creature was red in colour, feisty, and barren.

Annabel related this to Julia Gillard, and Ms Gillard took the time to write a letter to Mr Crabb saying she was honoured to have her name used thus.

Nice touch of both humanity and humour. She sure beats Kevin hands down.
If the leadership team was Gillard and Stephen Smith, I'd almost be happy to vote Labor.
 
God help Australia if Labour get in for another term.
It took the libs 7 years to get out of the previous labour debt. Already they have racked up enough public debt for a decent government to take another 10 years. What will another term do...

Labours top boffins have a collective work experience of 181 years. But only 13 in the private sector. If you take out the number that were spent as trade union lawyers, that total 11, of the 181 years only two years were spent in the private sector.

So the people who will rack up a net Federal debt of 188 billion, the highest in our history, have virtually no experience in business.

Is anyone else scared?
 
Julia said:
If the leadership team was Gillard and Stephen Smith, I'd almost be happy to vote Labor.
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Stephen Smith always comes across as knowledgeable and polite and can discuss issues without the need to be constantly scoring points against his opponents. His is one of the best and if either party had a dozen or so like him, politicians would not be held in such contempt.
 
I agree Stephen Smith is a good candidate, but as Calliope pointed out, i doubt they will drop someone as popular as Rudd anytime soon. As for young labour, i think young people like Rudd. Every young person i have spoken to across many demographics (tradies, uni students, workers) all voted labour in the last election and the few that would have considered the liberals all said the same thing and that was that they thought Turnbull was ok but arrogant, but they hate Abbott and would never vote for him. Out of most the consensus was not always that Rudd was great, but there was definatley a consensus on hating Abbott and unfortunatley we tend to vote people out in australia.

I don't pretend this takes in any real reliable amount of data, just thought i'd share what was being said amongst young people i've spoken to.
 
Julia said:
On "The Insiders" last week, Annabel Crabb related a personal anecdote about Julia Gillard.

Ms Crabb's parents are farmers. They are dyed in the wool Liberal voters.
Mr Crabb apparently named a young animal (I forget which kind) after Ms Gillard.
The reasoning was that the creature was red in colour, feisty, and barren.

Annabel related this to Julia Gillard, and Ms Gillard took the time to write a letter to Mr Crabb saying she was honoured to have her name used thus.

Nice touch of both humanity and humour. She sure beats Kevin hands down.
If the leadership team was Gillard and Stephen Smith, I'd almost be happy to vote Labor.
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I think there's a danger these days of the personality cult.

Gillard, red and barren as she may be, would be a complete disaster for Australia, in the same way Joan Kirner was for Victoria.

Gillard might well be a loverly human bean, but as a leader? I would be so tempted to leave the country and live in Europe it would be just about foregone.
 
Calliope said:
I'm afraid your contacts are just feeding you what you want to hear. Nobody in their right minds would drop someone with a 59% popularity rating.
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Dead on the money. Besides whihc everyone I talk to in the ALP (which is many from state and federal levels of all different factions) love Rudd, referrring to him as Kevin and recount when they were last in his presence. Maybe Obama was not the only chosen one??
 

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