Why do you live outside of Oz?

[prawn_86]

I've started this thread in response to a question in another thread by BradK.

It is for all those of you who dont live in the wonderful country of Aus, to explain your reasons why/why not, what you like/dislike etc etc.

Personally i will probably be looking at moving overseas to Europe in a couple years, unless i get a job offer from a couple of investment banks

The reasons i want to move is varied. I love Europe, I am a dual citizen so no visa worries, i love the european architecture, and i think that Europe is a bigger (and possibly more stable) financial hub.

A few other reasons but thats it for now

 

[BradK]

I'm moving to the UK next Tuesday to live and work in London.

The wife and I did it in 2005, and are going back for our second ashes tour. We plan on staying all of 2008 and possibly 2009 - depends on family planning.

I am going because we have a bad case of the travel bug, and want to see how the rest of the world lives. Also, just to broaden our thinking and horizons. Not to mention the cheap airfares to Europe!

Still, I think long term Australia to bring the kids up - we only have a 20 month old at the moment.

Cheers
Brad

 

[BradK]

Also, I'm on the run from the Feds (only joking ASIO if you are reading this... ggeeessshhh... you guys are up tight!)

 

[wayneL]

For Mrs and I, it's just a matter of the stuff that we want from life is more available in the UK.

* culture (in the broad sense, not just the arts)

* sense of history, archeology

* proximity to Europe

* decent equestrian

* cooler weather

Plus we have some property here and some really excellent business contacts (secondary consideration really)

There are other reasons, but that will do for now.

Cheers

 

[prawn_86]

The weather is the thing we are most worried about.

My partner is originally from Cairns and loves the tropics. She thinks it is cold here in Adelaide so i hate to think what she will be like in Europe!

She says i will have to buy her lots of expensive warm clothes...

 

[wayneL]

I'm moving to the UK next Tuesday to live and work in London.

PS Good luck for the trip. You'll love it there.

If I could get a high falutin job in the city, I'd go to London in an instant.

 

[Sean K]

Wife runs a travel company.

I'm here to cook, clean and put out the garbage.

Actual, we have a cleaning lady so delete the cleaning and garbage. And we eat out every night, so delete cooking. Golly, what am I doing in Peru?

 

[surfingman]

I am considering London because i can get a British passport and the pound would go a lot further than $AU if I can save over there, not sure if I can handle the weather though always lived in QLD.

Looking to gain some experience in Australia now uni is over then maybe check out London again (holidayed there when i was 15), so see what our market brings (might have to start packing sooner rather than later).

 

[Yeti]

Wife runs a travel company.

I'm here to cook, clean and put out the garbage.

Actual, we have a cleaning lady so delete the cleaning and garbage. And we eat out every night, so delete cooking. Golly, what am I doing in Peru?

Investing your wife's earnings by the looks of it

Nice part of the world to be. Hope your area has recovered from the earthquake a few months ago. I was in Ecuador and Chile last year, wanted to visit Peru as well but ran out of time. I am seriously considering moving to Ecuador, which is more and more becoming an attractive location for Americans and other nationalities running away from cold weather and increasing living expense. A small country with an amazing range of choice for climate, including the Andean Highlands, Amazon Jungle, Pacific Coast and the Galapagos Islands. The weather in the highlands is surprisingly pleasant for a country on the Equator. Anyway, whether I move or not will depend mostly on success in the stock market so wish me luck

 

[BradK]

PS Good luck for the trip. You'll love it there.

If I could get a high falutin job in the city, I'd go to London in an instant.

Thanks Wayne,

Im a school teacher - so my job is not high falutin. But pays relatively well, and gives me hols and weekends off.

Looking forward to it. However, the two year old might be a nightmare on the plane!

Cheers
Brad

 

[Sean K]

Investing your wife's earnings by the looks of it

No, just losing it at the moment....

The beauty of living here is that we are going on a short flight to Columbia for Christmas and New Year.

Then to Ecuador for Jan (wife has office in Quito) and we do a Galapagos trip for free.....

 

[Yeti]

No, just losing it at the moment....

The beauty of living here is that we are going on a short flight to Columbia for Christmas and New Year.

Then to Ecuador for Jan (wife has office in Quito) and we do a Galapagos trip for free.....

Sounds great! Be sure not to talk politics while you're in Colombia. I loved Quito, except for the pollution. Some very cheap real estate there, great investment opportunities, but probably not for long. Where in Quito is your wife's office? Let me know if she needs someone who speaks English Spanish Dutch German French

 

[Timmy]

There are other reasons, but that will do for now.
Cheers

Yeah, right...you're on the run from the Feds too aren't you?

 

[wildkactus]

The only reason it left the land of oz was business.
I do more business in europe / usa then oz. the business conditions that Hong Kong has just makes it a great place to have my business based, close to the rest of the world, for me too.

if it wasn't for my business i would still be in oz as it's the best place around that i can see to live. (even thought there are a lot of really good places but none of them ever compare to home).

 

[Sean K]

The only reason it left the land of oz was business.
I do more business in europe / usa then oz. the business conditions that Hong Kong has just makes it a great place to have my business based, close to the rest of the world, for me too.

if it wasn't for my business i would still be in oz as it's the best place around that i can see to live. (even thought there are a lot of really good places but none of them ever compare to home).

What's the business wildkactus? Drug running? People smuggling? Fleuglebinding? Sweatshops?

 

[jman2007]

Bucking the trend slightly,

I moved TOO Australia from NZ ("oh not another one" i hear you all groan..), my circumstances were fairly straighforward, single, wanted a better climate, and greater earning potential. Have to say the 2nd and 3rd objectives have been fulfilled, although I'm still single! :

Making ends meet in NZ is tough, I worked for 3 years in a job paying NZ$29,000 p/a like a lot of people, but realised my chances of ever having my own house were remote.

I think the people in WA are generally friendlier than back home, and most people will give you a fair go if you can prove that you are reliable and a hard worker. The main thing I miss from home are the mountains and the back country exploring (I guess you can certainly go bush here, but would face a very different set of challenges!).

 

[wildkactus]

kennas,
I wish, those jobs could be easier, we are an outsoucred manufacture in architectural hardware (door Locks, Hinges, taps, baths etc) and australia is now only about 10% of total revenue and falling.
Also setup this way i don't have to pay tax to a governement that does not desirve it ie. not generated from that country.
Also I setup and manage offshore companies for people.

 

[Julia]

Bucking the trend slightly,

I moved TOO Australia from NZ ("oh not another one" i hear you all groan..), my circumstances were fairly straighforward, single, wanted a better climate, and greater earning potential. Have to say the 2nd and 3rd objectives have been fulfilled, although I'm still single! :

Making ends meet in NZ is tough, I worked for 3 years in a job paying NZ$29,000 p/a like a lot of people, but realised my chances of ever having my own house were remote.

I think the people in WA are generally friendlier than back home, and most people will give you a fair go if you can prove that you are reliable and a hard worker. The main thing I miss from home are the mountains and the back country exploring (I guess you can certainly go bush here, but would face a very different set of challenges!).

Jman, where were you from? I'm surprised at your comment that Kiwis are less friendly. Certainly not my experience but Im from Christchurch, and I did always notice when I was working in Auckland or Wellington that it was a much more dog eat dog environment.
I moved here just for the good weather. If global warming ever actually results in NZ getting warm enough to be comfortable I'd be back smartly.

 

[jman2007]

Jman, where were you from? I'm surprised at your comment that Kiwis are less friendly. Certainly not my experience but Im from Christchurch, and I did always notice when I was working in Auckland or Wellington that it was a much more dog eat dog environment.
I moved here just for the good weather. If global warming ever actually results in NZ getting warm enough to be comfortable I'd be back smartly.

Hi Jullia,

I grew up in Oamaru till I was about 18, went to Otago Uni and lived in Welly off and on for 5 years. I've been in WA for about a year now and certainly wouldn't consider going back to NZ any time soon. I'm not so sure about the Eastern states, but I find WA reasonably easy-going and friendly. Like I said, if you can prove that you are a hard worker, the rewards will eventually come. Opportunites back home are few and far between, and I basically got fed-up with feeling like I was going nowhere. Oh and the weather in Welly is awful too

jman

 

[EXDXBPAT]

The weather is the thing we are most worried about.

My partner is originally from Cairns and loves the tropics. She thinks it is cold here in Adelaide so i hate to think what she will be like in Europe!

She says i will have to buy her lots of expensive warm clothes...

Hi Prawn,

If weather is your problem, there is only one answer to your prayers --- sunny Dubai!!

You have the best of all worlds here--- 3am - ASX opens, 10am DIFX opens, after DIFX closes play the FTSE for awhile and at 6:30pm hit the DOW. Then do it all again.

We came for a year and have now racked up 4 and counting....

No shortage of things to do here and the "tax free" status has got to be a hook along with the weather.

Worth considering?