Why are some people poor?

It all goes back to what switch's in when people go through puberty and is handed down from some parent or grand parent maybe a few generations back.

Look back at some one in the family tree you will find one with the same attitude.
Sadly it shows how hard it is to form a relationship and why there is a lot more to be explored in to the way the mind works once that is mapped out we can start to live in peace.

Glen48 said:

Look back at some one in the family tree you will find one with the same attitude.
Sadly it shows how hard it is to form a relationship and why there is a lot more to be explored in to the way the mind works once that is mapped out we can start to live in peace.

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Look at the simplicity of life for an animal and it is purely survival focussed. In harmony with nature, no weight loss (unless their habitat has been destroyed by plague human), no sexual hangups, no mind games, plenty of sleep/rest, no exercise required, no deadlines to meet and no big deal about anything.


Hey that's me. lol.

Wysiwyg said:

Look at the simplicity of life for an animal and it is purely survival focussed. In harmony with nature, no weight loss (unless their habitat has been destroyed by plague human), no sexual hangups, no mind games, plenty of sleep/rest, no exercise required, no deadlines to meet and no big deal about anything.


Hey that's me. lol.

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Very interesting comparison, but surely squirrels do store nuts in preparation for the Winter (seasonal deadline). Migratory birds are also compelled to respond in a timely fashion to the change of seasons. Insects also create their respective hives/nest and toil for the benefit of their Queen(regent or government) and the perpetuation of their society. Many animals mark (and defend) their territory (acquisition of real estate!).

I've always held the opinion that mankind (whilst somewhat more evolved and possibly more intelligent) is simply another animal species with a drive to survive and adapt to the various challenges presented by one's environment (habitat).
Poverty, disease, war and geological/meteorological phenoma could be considered to be the natural predators to which mankind often succumbs.
Activities in our business world and respective economies often appear to be subject to the age old concept of "survival of the fittest".

I believe that parallels between our social/political structure and survival behaviours can always be found by anyone willing to humbly recognise themselves as always being subject to Nature (and her forces) rather than presuming to be Nature's conqueror.

Having said all this, I do applaud the efforts of mankind to consciously combat/alleviate our various "natural" predators (poverty, war, disease etc.) in the hope of creating a safer, more peaceful and prosperous world for ourselves and the enjoyment of our future descendants.

cynic said:

... squirrels do store nuts in preparation for the Winter ...

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Even if a squirrel is left in a room it will scratch at the floorboards in an attempt to bury the nuts. Interesting, but well off topic

I believe it is the time value of money
Prof. Julius Sumner Millar was once asked to fix a chimney/flue. He drilled one hole. And he walked away with a cheque for $10,000. In them days it was a lotta loot!
He justified it thusly:
I knew it needed a hole and I knew where to put it.
They were happy to pay!
I have some very expensive toys.

If they offered $17 per hour I doubt he would have left home.
He knew the time value of money.
Most people work for an hourly rate and thereby reduce their opportunity to accumulate.

About chimneys and Prof. Julius Sumner Millar!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCcZyW-6-5o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwuffpiYxQU&NR=1

Wysiwyg said:

Look at the simplicity of life for an animal and it is purely survival focussed. In harmony with nature, no weight loss (unless their habitat has been destroyed by plague human), no sexual hangups, no mind games, plenty of sleep/rest, no exercise required, no deadlines to meet and no big deal about anything.


Hey that's me. lol.

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You haven't studied zoology or had much to do with wild animals, have you?

Sdajii said:

You haven't studied zoology or had much to do with wild animals, have you?

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No but I don't mind the occasional seared rat kebab with a chilled glass of cat juice while watching a David Attenborough documentary.

Wysiwyg said:

No but I don't mind the occasional seared rat kebab with a chilled glass of cat juice while watching a David Attenborough documentary.

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Personally I prefer platypus pate with a Koala Bear smoothie, whilst watching a rerun of 'Milo and Otis'. But each to his own.

Oh and Burglar, just how many squirrels have you been locking indoors lately?

I confess I may have taken this a bit off the original topic.

Being a lover of many animal species (although I sometimes find the human beast a little bit difficult to stomach) I would be interested to hear if any one has any further interesting insights into animal poverty.

cynic said:

Personally I prefer platypus pate with a Koala Bear smoothie, whilst watching a rerun of 'Milo and Otis'. But each to his own.

Oh and Burglar, just how many squirrels have you been locking indoors lately?

I confess I may have taken this a bit off the original topic.

Being a lover of many animal species (although I sometimes find the human beast a little bit difficult to stomach) I would be interested to hear if any one has any further interesting insights into animal poverty.

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1. I don't have squirrels.
2. If I do have squirrels, I don't lock them indoors.


.... just kidding ... now back to topic.

The more humans I meet, the more I like squirrels!

First human ancestor looked like a squirrel. Fossilized bones reveal tiny, agile
animal that spent a lot of time eating fruit ...

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Read more:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4948322...ience/t/first-human-ancestor-looked-squirrel/

burglar said:

1. I don't have squirrels.
2. If I do have squirrels, I don't lock them indoors.


.... just kidding ... now back to topic.

The more humans I meet, the more I like squirrels!


Read more:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4948322...ience/t/first-human-ancestor-looked-squirrel/

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Thanks for that Burglar.

For a while there I thought I might've had to wait another 5 years or so only to receive a reply from GG!

It's good to see that Bellenuit and I aren't the only one's up at this hour.

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Thanks for that Burglar. ...

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I have no idea how to get this thread back on topic!

Poor people are poor because they lack valuable labour, land, capital, human capital, or social capital, or because they have disabilities that overwhelm their advantages, or because they squander their advantages, or because they are denied the opportunity to put their advantages to lucrative use (often because of lack of public infrastructure, because of defective legal and economic institutions, or because they are oppressed), or because they are exploited by monopsonists in the markets for their factors of production, or because they are oppressed, or because they are robbed, or because war destroys their assets and the markets for their assets

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Read more:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_are_some_people_rich_and_why_some_are_poor