Julia
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You must be doing OK with the stock market. Can you give us a few tips. I mean if six or seven billion is insignificant to you then you are doing better than most of us.
It's called a random sample. The ASF poll is clearly not a random sample - it is biased towards internet users who invest (or trade?) in stocks with an interest in discussing politics. That is clearly not a random sample.
Morgan, Newspoll, ACNielsen and Galaxy all poll random samples. You might believe that they are rigged, but it is quite a coincidence that all four have consistently been within 4-5% of each other all year. The consistency of polls this year have been quite remarkable.
I think it's far more likely that the bias lies within you rather than the polls.
Why try to fix something if it ain't broke.
The last I heard was that the difference was about 2 billion, i.e. The Coalition's promises (at that stage) were up around $49B and Labor's were about $47B. That was on Radio National ABC. I think that was before the "Launch" of both parties.
Well, after the launch the difference is easily above 7bill... that is approaching 1% of GDP, which is quite significant Julia.
But its also the difference in the spending, beyond the base 40billion in tax cuts/aged pensions. Most of the the further Liberal spending is in handouts under to guise of letting the people decide where they want to spend their money rather than the govt... whereas the labour spending is directly in infrastructure, equipment or personell.
Julia, surely you agree handing back money directly back to the people, be it baby bonuses, FHOG, and now education rebates is more inflationary that actually pumping it into services and infrastructure where you are atleast getting some output for it?
Rafa, thanks for providing the correct figure. And yes, I agree that 7bWell, after the launch the difference is easily above 7bill... that is approaching 1% of GDP, which is quite significant Julia.
But its also the difference in the spending, beyond the base 40billion in tax cuts/aged pensions. Most of the the further Liberal spending is in handouts under to guise of letting the people decide where they want to spend their money rather than the govt... whereas the labour spending is directly in infrastructure, equipment or personell.
Julia, surely you agree handing back money directly back to the people, be it baby bonuses, FHOG, and now education rebates is more inflationary that actually pumping it into services and infrastructure where you are atleast getting some output for it?
And health/aged care? My local member (National) has sent out a leaflet saying they will establish 24 hour medical clinics in all regional cities..
At 8am this morning the poll taken from 17504 voters in Queensland was Labor 32% and the Liberals at 58%.
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Labor 32% (6442 votes) Liberal 57% (11493 votes) National 3% (611 votes) Greens 3% (771 votes) Democrats 0% (69 votes) Independent 0% (113 votes) Other minor party 0% (93 votes) Undecided 1% (284 votes) Sum votes: Total votes: 19876 votes so far
Yes, I completely agree. I have genuinely been trying to find something about which to feel positive but just can't. Honestly can't find a single person on either side in whom I could feel trust and optimism that they genuinely have the interests of the country at heart rather than self aggrandisement.Julia, this has been the most disappointing campaign i have ever witnessed...
THE Liberal Party has claimed 13 Labor candidates are ineligible to stand in Saturday's election. The shock development threatens to create a major distraction for Kevin Rudd's run to the poll.
According to Liberal Party headquarters, the 13 hopefuls are all ineligible because they failed to resign from Commonwealth jobs before nominating for parliament.
Legal advice suggests the ALP candidate for Wentworth, George Newhouse, may be ineligible for parliament and has compounded the problem by refusing to release relevant documentation.
Twelve other ALP candidates may be similarly affected, the Liberals claim.
- More to come
Honestly can't find a single person on either side in whom I could feel trust and optimism that they genuinely have the interests of the country at heart rather than self aggrandisement.
Yes, I completely agree. I have genuinely been trying to find something about which to feel positive but just can't. Honestly can't find a single person on either side in whom I could feel trust and optimism that they genuinely have the interests of the country at heart rather than self aggrandisement.
Are they, e,g, going to do something to help with our dwindling water supply?
This is a problem now in most of our capital cities.
And health/aged care? My local member (National) has sent out a leaflet saying they will establish 24 hour medical clinics in all regional cities.
There is no stated amount for funding this. I phoned to ask how they are planning to staff these clinics because all the local GP's are overworked now and people new to the district find it very difficult to get a doctor. The person I spoke to didn't know but promised to find out and get back to me. She hasn't. This is the sort of thing which makes me so cynical about both sides. It's just so easy to say "we will do this" but often not so easy to actually implement the policy. Ditto aged care - we will provide additional aged care beds. OK, fine. They can't get sufficient staff for nursing homes now, where are all the extras going to come from?
I do recall hearing Mr Rudd announce that Labor will reinstate the Commonwealth Dental Scheme. Great. Very much needed.
But there is also a shortage of dentists. The local State funded and run free dental clinic here (Qld) has a 6 year waiting list. The staff say that is because they just cannot attract the required number of dentists to service the demand. So where are all Mr Rudd's extra dentists going to come from?
And then there's mental health. We shouldn't be saving apes when we have mentally ill people who are homeless and being abused in miserable caravan parks. Is either side going to do anything for these poor souls?
Obviously some of these questions are rhetorical just to illustrate my complete lack of faith in both sides. But the infrastructure ones, e.g. water may be something someone can answer.
A Rudd Labor Government will invest $20 million to establish a National Centre of Excellence in Water Desalination to help secure Australia’s permanent drinking water supply from the dangerous effects of climate change.
Located in Perth, Federal Labor’s National Centre of Excellence in Water Desalination will be a world class facility developing and commercialising new water technology.
The existing desalination skill and technology base that already exist in Western Australia means Perth is the most logical place to host Federal Labor’s Desal Centre.
Federal Labor’s National Centre of Excellence in Water Desalination will help secure Australia’s water supply from the dangerous effects of climate change by:
Investigating ways of optimising and adapting desalination technology for optimum use in Australia’s unique circumstances;
Expand on research into the use of desalination technology in rural and regional areas; and
Researching ways of efficiently and affordably reducing the carbon footprint of desalination facilities.
Accelerating ground breaking research on energy efficient bulk water supply technology being developed in Australia;
Under Federal Labor’s plan Australia will become a research hub for new water technology and ensure Australia is a water technology maker, not a technology taker.
Under Federal Labor’s $20 million five year plan universities, government agencies and other interested stakeholders will be asked to develop collaborative bids to competitively bid for the opportunity to be part of the Centre.
The National Centre of Excellence in Water Desalination is part of Federal Labor’s $1 Billion National Urban Water and Desalination Plan.
Perth to host the National Centre of Excellence in Water Desalination
Western Australia is a proven leader on desalination and is the most logical state to host Australia’s first National Centre for Excellence focused on the research and development of Desalination Technology.
Western Australia has the runs on the board with the first major desalination plant for public drinking water in Australia already built and operating at Kwinana, and a second plant on its way.
The Kwinana Desalination Plant already turns water from the Indian Ocean into nearly 40 million gallons of drinking water a day. The reverse-osmosis plant is powered by the Emu Downs Wind Farm, with 48 wind turbines.
Federal Labor’s National Centre of Excellence in Water Desalination will mean more high tech jobs for Western Australia, and will significantly increase skills in the area of water service provision for all Australian states and territories.
Other desalination plants are at various stages around Australia including in: Sydney, the Gold Coast and the Spencer Gulf in South Australia
Yes, Rafa. I saw that item.In regards to water, did anyone see the 7:30 report last night...
Turnbull found 10m to give to some company (partly owned by one of his biggest capmpaign donors) to investigate some new, unproven technique of creating clouds out of thin air...
all the while refusing to give any grants to existing cloud seeding research and trials that have shown must better success rates!
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