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Meeting are being held in North Qld. in relation to the "convoy to canberra".
The meeting are apparently to organise and plan way's to call an election.

Is there any mention of this in other area's?
joea
 
joea said:
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The meeting are apparently to organise and plan way's to call an election.

Is there any mention of this in other area's?
joea
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There should be somewhere a mechanism for calling ealy election by voters.

Maybe election trigger should be enough that politician lied before election and did the opposite after elected?
 
Happy said:
There should be somewhere a mechanism for calling ealy election by voters.

Maybe election trigger should be enough that politician lied before election and did the opposite after elected?
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I think you are close to the mark.
Why should the voters have to contribute to a government which is out of control?
I now think a lot more people will be using a bit more common sense at the next election. I think Bob Brown is running s**t scared!!!!
joea p.s. It can not come soon enough for me!!!
 
I have asked this in another thread (or so l think...), but what options do we (as a people) have for an early election? (...Basically, none???)
 
DB008 said:
I have asked this in another thread (or so l think...), but what options do we (as a people) have for an early election? (...Basically, none???)
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A MIRACLE. Maybe a by-election or a resignation as I just posted on another thread.
 
Maybe Mother in Law one of Labor’s politicians or should I say Governor General could call one, but …

Quite interesting if anybody else can see possibility of gross impartiality, or I am just too happy to jump to too outrageous conclusions.
 
DB008 said:
I have asked this in another thread (or so l think...), but what options do we (as a people) have for an early election? (...Basically, none???)
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Danny, here are some people giving it a try:

From the Australian: Mass convoy to make 'real' voices heard

The organisers’ petition PDF - here's an excerpt:

… the 43rd Executive Government of Australia has been compromised into wilfully and intentionally misleading the Australian people by introducing a ‘Carban Tax” without the
consent of the Australian people and, that would be normally decided by a free and unencumbered ballot.

I therefore demand that the Prime Minister with the concurrence of the Governor-General, immediately dissolve both Houses of the 43rd Parliament and a ballot of the Australian people called so that the people of Australia may elect a responsible 44th Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia.​

Below is a map of the convoy routes and more details here



Thanks to Andrew Bolt for placing these links in his blog today: Protesters, start your engines
 
Someone might want to check their spelling there. It's a carbon tax, not a carban tax.

Nothing worse than getting lots of people to sign a petition or participate in a protest rally and then realise you stuffed something up and now look like a fool.

Note to self: having the generator run out of petrol at a protest rally is also one to avoid as that's rather embarassing too. Been there with that one...
 
Smurf1976 said:
Someone might want to check their spelling there. It's a carbon tax, not a carban tax.
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Well a car-ban would be more effective than a carbon tax because micro exhaust particles do severe damage to lungs.
 
IF/ when Gillard and co go out then what who do you vote for who can save the country and how, it is all part of a Global mess about to get a lot worse.
Bank of America is on the verge of going under and just received another 1/2 trillion bail out.
Big Ben has warmed up the choppers and is getting the loot ready to drop out the door's.
So don't vote maybe they will get the message you want action.
 
DB008 said:
Debatable and the total cost will easily exceed the Governments original $40-$50 Billion estimate.
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Have you ever had to convert from a phone line to a naked adsl connection? I am happy for the NBN to cost $100bn if that is what it takes. There must be a unified, efficient, high-speed network. There is just no other way.

And before anyone gives me crap about being selfish again, to draw on a great example, I work for a company producing real professional services (that is, not bogus crap that relies on any boom cycle) for export to other countries, and yet we have to put up with the most ridiculously expensive, slow and ****ty internet right in the middle of Sydney CBD. This presents very real challenges even when working with Australian clients. All of us are eagerly anticipating the NBN because it will allow us to do business far better - and I strongly suspect we are not the only company in this position.


DB008 said:
And we will make a HUGE difference in reducing CO2 emissions while China and USA do nothing. Renewable technology is too expensive and can't handle base power loads.
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USA is doing more than you think by tanking their economy with idiotic policies (not that I'm implying they are doing so to combat climate change).

China is moving to impose emission caps by next year, several Chinese provinces already operate their own emission trading schemes. The current five year plan has significant commitment to stopping the rise of emissions while growing the Chinese economy.

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And the Christmas Island debarcle that is happening right NOW? The Government dismantled a working policy, and totally stuffed it up. See chart below.
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I don't like it one bit, but what exactly have the Liberals proposed as a means to deal with it? The only thing I've heard is "herp derp stop the boats". How exactly do they plan to stop them?

DB008 said:
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about! Look at Germany, 4 times the population and high standard of living!
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Germany also has a 4 (if not 40) times better government. Better than Libs, Labor, Greens, whatever other party you can think of. Just about everything in Germany is done the way it should be done, and I do not see our own politicians ever reaching such high standards of governance. The only thing that will result from population increase in Australia is a lowering of the quality of life (this has already been happening), because politicians here are incapable of addressing any problems which come with greater population.

In the last few decades Sydney's population has grown immensely. We should have built high-tech satellite cities with high speed rail connections to Sydney. We should have had massive investment in infrastructure.
What have we gotten? Zero infrastructure investment, urban growth boundary bull****, supply shortages, idiotic government grants, banking deregulation causing a credit bubble, red tape for developers and the most expensive housing market in Australia. In Germany, in the last 70 years, real property medians haven't risen once.

Traffic is ridiculous, there is not even any space on footpaths during peak hour. Our governments (federal, state and local) are a joke.

I would not be so much against population increase if our politicians had a clue - but they don't. This is apart from the fact that there are simply too many people live on the planet. Why have more of us competing for Australia's resources? No way.

DB008 said:
I don't know what to say...Your living on another planet with your own little fascist view on life. Sad to see a younger person which such arrogance and negative view on the world, and this is coming from someone who is similar in age.
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Some here have called me socialist, and now I'm fascist. You guys really should make up your mind

My views are not ever negative - merely realistic.



Aha....




I disagree thoroughly. I only and only think about what is best in the long-term for (the Australian) people and society.

Ruby said:
The high standard of living that Australia currently enjoys was created by today's aging baby boomers
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I think China had a lot more to do with it. That and immigrant workers because apparently you boomers are too good for driving a truck for $280k pa.

I don't consider any of your other points relevant to what I had posted.
 
Starcraftmazter said:
Have you ever had to convert from a phone line to a naked adsl connection? I am happy for the NBN to cost $100bn if that is what it takes. There must be a unified, efficient, high-speed network. There is just no other way.
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$100bn if that's what it takes ??

What about $200bn, $300bn, or more if that's what it takes ?

It's easy to demand and spend, spend, spend when it's other people's money.

Trouble is, sooner or later, other people get jack of that and it runs out.
 
drsmith said:
$100bn if that's what it takes ??

What about $200bn, $300bn, or more if that's what it takes.

It's easy to demand and spend, spend, spend when it's other people's money.

Trouble is, sooner or later, it runs out.
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Well first of all, I would suggest that I would pay my fair share through taxes.

Second of all, I would argue that the NBN will contribute immensely to our economy (especially IT & professional services) and education, and is worth the cost.

We must use mining revenue to spend big on infrastructure, especially to encourage non-mining exporting companies - or this country has no future. Mining cannot and will not last us forever. China will not continue growing forever. This is my view.
 
drsmith said:
No if, it's when.

The good ship Gillard Labor might be sinking a little slower than many of us would like, but it is sinking.
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Keep dreaming Abbott will be PM soon enough then what............will he actually answer questions? Ha ha ha ha ha (hilarious)

God I will have a field day bring it on please.
 
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