People probably say the majority on here are righties because this is a "Stock Forum" - primarily about wealth creation and capitalism - 2 things the lefties wouldn't know anything about!
Valid comment. There is bound to be a particular demographic attracted to this forum.
I guess then that the main decision people will have to make at the next election is to either vote for the Carbon Tax, or Workchoices Mk II.When there was similar anger against Howard's work choices, would you then consider all swinging voters as "left" even though some of those same voters now will swing to the "right"?
Yes, good point.What is the government (us?) striving for? Better living conditions? How much better is better? Where does it stop? Why can't people be happy with living simply and comfortably? Everyone wants more more more.
I guess then that the main decision people will have to make at the next election is to either vote for the Carbon Tax, or Workchoices Mk II.
Some people have already made up their minds and that's fine by me, it really is, but for all those that will swing back to the Coalition in 2013, are you sure in your own minds which is the lesser of two evils?
I guess then that the main decision people will have to make at the next election is to either vote for the Carbon Tax, or Workchoices Mk II...
Perhaps a topic for one of your past someone-or-another sending something-or-another broke threads, if you dare.That one is a bit hard to deal I take it.
There is a revenue hole approaching future governments Abbotts narrative means he will not be able to deal with when he becomes PM.
That also includes an incredible long list of other issues.
I thought you concluded that the majority of us were Greek and that you were superior.Yes, good point.
It is amazing, isn't it? We are such a comparitively affluent nation with high living standards, yet so many people bitch about it.
Thank you, Wayne, for confirming what I'd already concluded.Julia,
I can translate leftist doublespeak:
What IF is saying is that he has no answers to your question.
You might bitch about it too, if you were unemployed and trying to live on $240 p.w., or trying to support a severely disabled child on a pathetic level of benefit.Yes, good point.
It is amazing, isn't it? We are such a comparitively affluent nation with high living standards, yet so many people bitch about it.
That being any bogus excuse to remove employees is okay. Is not working hard enough, according to the employer, a valid excuse? Any excuse will do?Work Choices was passed by the Howard Government in 2005 and was designed to improve employment levels and national economic performance by dispensing with unfair dismissal laws for companies under a certain size
Law of the jungle, only the strong survive and stuff you jack I am keeping my job at your demise. Worplace "Authority"???? What the hell is that?removing the "no disadvantage test" which had sought to ensure workers were not left disadvantaged by changes in legislation, thereby promoting individual efficiency and requiring workers submit their certified agreements directly to Workplace Authority rather than going through the Australian Industrial Relations Commission.
The end of trade unions and the unified strength of the workers. You know, the people who toil for their pay and suffer life long physical and mental ailments after (and some during) their service to the employer. If anyone has experienced working life as a casual as I did then y'all would know there is no recourse for being moved on next day for some lame excuse.It also significantly compromised a workforce's ability to legally go on strike, requiring workers to bargain for previously-guaranteed conditions without collectivised representation, and significantly restricting trade union activity and recruitment on the work site.
Indeed and that's the fatal flaw in the carbon tax.So easy for those of us who are doing OK to be so dismissive of those who are absolutely disadvantaged.
Meh, the numbers are clear. You can't meet the natural increase in energy consumption any other way.Yes away from communities and water supplies and earthquake zones and cyclone activity and grazing land is fine.
Oh and jettison the waste into the sun.
You're one funny guy!
To call workchoices evil requires twisted morals. Employers should be as free to decide who they employ (and on what terms), as employees are free to decide who employs them (and on what terms). Restricting the later is defined as 'slavery', restricting the former should be considered equally immoral.I guess then that the main decision people will have to make at the next election is to either vote for the Carbon Tax, or Workchoices Mk II.
Some people have already made up their minds and that's fine by me, it really is, but for all those that will swing back to the Coalition in 2013, are you sure in your own minds which is the lesser of two evils?
Because you don't stay an affluent nation by allowing lunatics to deliberately inflict damage upon you. There are a long list of affluent nations that descended into obscurity. Mongolia used to be the biggest and most powerful empire in the world. Portugal used to be one of the wealthiest nations in the world, and the foremost naval power. Things change, often when people change them.Yes, good point.
It is amazing, isn't it? We are such a comparitively affluent nation with high living standards, yet so many people bitch about it.
Indeed and that's the fatal flaw in the carbon tax.
Some will be "compensated" with an amount supposedly equal to their increased living costs. Others will lose their jobs and receive virtually nothing in compensation.
The workers should just re-train and accept it I hear someone say? Oh great, so we swap more high wage manufacturing jobs for $15 an hour service industry jobs. That's just wonderful if you've got a mortgage to pay and a family to support as many have. :
I just don't think its going to be that big an issue. There has been this story of 'we are going to run out of fossil fuels, thus guaranteed economic implosion' for a long time now. It doesn't really work like that though. Prices provide a mechanism by which people smoothly move from one energy source to another.Or we can just keep going as we are until it becomes clear that finite fossil fuel energy supplies are collapsing ahead of increasing demands. Not pretty.
The energy problem will largely be solved automatically, provided citizens are not obstructed from solving it by their governments. To the Max
EROEI does seem a useful way of describing it, 'do the math' looks to have some interesting things to say, I'll have to check it out some more. Mind you I still prefer $ as the unit, and profit/loss as the measure, since it embodies all resources including energy (labour, materials etc).It seems that the critical factor is energy return on energy invested, or EROEI.
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