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Um, yeah Mrmagoo, low income people shouldn't be able to purchase 'basic luxuries' such as cigarettes and alcohol at the same time as trying to survive and get by. It's not discrimination, it's just recognition of their poor decision making. "Luxury - a state of great comfort or elegance, especially when involving great expense." I can't afford to drink and smoke, in fact I can hardly afford to go to the pub once a month to catch up with a few friends over a couple of pints. I am a full-time degree educated employee, with a full-time employed tertiary educated wife living in a capital city and trying to buy a house. We're sacrificing now so that we can get ahead, the same as our parents did.

I know people that came from the same background as me, got the same (lack of) help as me, spent the same amount of time in the workforce as me, and guess what? They're doing much better than I am financially. They've bought a home and an investment property. They're saving large portions of their income, and can afford dinner at the pub without checking the monthly cash flow before they decide to go out. Do you know why they can do that? It's because I chose to drink and smoke, they chose to save and invest.

They traded the grog, tobacco, drugs and trips to Europe and Bali that are a rite of passage for seemingly everyone not ready to grow up, leave home and join the real world, for a home deposit or capital for a business so that they could set themselves up financially.

Your endless moaning about woe is me, the system is out to get me, it's all terrible doom and gloom is almost physically painful to read. If you aren't happy where you are, move. I couldn't get professional work where I grew up and lived, so I left. I didn't want to stay pouring beers at a pub until I was 25.

Hell, Brisbane has 2 bed townhouses 30 minute bus trip to the CBD door to door for 230k. That's a $14,000 or so deposit and a mortgage of ~$1,250 a month. Toowoomba has 4 bed houses for $300k, big backyard and all. There are 11 pages of ads on Seek for jobs paying over 60k in Toowoomba. There are some paying much more than that.

Can't cut it in Sydney, Melbourne or Perth? Get over it. There is a whole other country out there and people go to work there every day. You don't automatically get the entitlement to buy a home in your suburb of choice just because you were born there.

<blockquote data-quote="Vixs" data-source="post: 841854" data-attributes="member: 46080">Um, yeah Mrmagoo, low income people shouldn&#039;t be able to purchase &#039;basic luxuries&#039; such as cigarettes and alcohol at the same time as trying to survive and get by. It&#039;s not discrimination, it&#039;s just recognition of their poor decision making. &quot;Luxury - a state of great comfort or elegance, especially when involving great expense.&quot; I can&#039;t afford to drink and smoke, in fact I can hardly afford to go to the pub once a month to catch up with a few friends over a couple of pints. I am a full-time degree educated employee, with a full-time employed tertiary educated wife living in a capital city and trying to buy a house. We&#039;re sacrificing now so that we can get ahead, the same as our parents did.I know people that came from the same background as me, got the same (lack of) help as me, spent the same amount of time in the workforce as me, and guess what? They&#039;re doing much better than I am financially. They&#039;ve bought a home and an investment property. They&#039;re saving large portions of their income, and can afford dinner at the pub without checking the monthly cash flow before they decide to go out. Do you know why they can do that? It&#039;s because I chose to drink and smoke, they chose to save and invest.They traded the grog, tobacco, drugs and trips to Europe and Bali that are a rite of passage for seemingly everyone not ready to grow up, leave home and join the real world, for a home deposit or capital for a business so that they could set themselves up financially.Your endless moaning about woe is me, the system is out to get me, it&#039;s all terrible doom and gloom is almost physically painful to read. If you aren&#039;t happy where you are, move. I couldn&#039;t get professional work where I grew up and lived, so I left. I didn&#039;t want to stay pouring beers at a pub until I was 25. Hell, Brisbane has 2 bed townhouses 30 minute bus trip to the CBD door to door for 230k. That&#039;s a $14,000 or so deposit and a mortgage of ~$1,250 a month. Toowoomba has 4 bed houses for $300k, big backyard and all. There are 11 pages of ads on Seek for jobs paying over 60k in Toowoomba. There are some paying much more than that. Can&#039;t cut it in Sydney, Melbourne or Perth? Get over it. There is a whole other country out there and people go to work there every day. You don&#039;t automatically get the entitlement to buy a home in your suburb of choice just because you were born there.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vixs, post: 841854, member: 46080"] Um, yeah Mrmagoo, low income people shouldn't be able to purchase 'basic luxuries' such as cigarettes and alcohol at the same time as trying to survive and get by. It's not discrimination, it's just recognition of their poor decision making. "Luxury - a state of great comfort or elegance, especially when involving great expense." I can't afford to drink and smoke, in fact I can hardly afford to go to the pub once a month to catch up with a few friends over a couple of pints. I am a full-time degree educated employee, with a full-time employed tertiary educated wife living in a capital city and trying to buy a house. We're sacrificing now so that we can get ahead, the same as our parents did. I know people that came from the same background as me, got the same (lack of) help as me, spent the same amount of time in the workforce as me, and guess what? They're doing much better than I am financially. They've bought a home and an investment property. They're saving large portions of their income, and can afford dinner at the pub without checking the monthly cash flow before they decide to go out. Do you know why they can do that? It's because [B]I chose to drink and smoke, they chose to save and invest.[/B] They traded the grog, tobacco, drugs and trips to Europe and Bali that are a rite of passage for seemingly everyone not ready to grow up, leave home and join the real world, for a home deposit or capital for a business so that they could set themselves up financially. Your endless moaning about woe is me, the system is out to get me, it's all terrible doom and gloom is almost physically painful to read. If you aren't happy where you are, move. I couldn't get professional work where I grew up and lived, so I left. I didn't want to stay pouring beers at a pub until I was 25. Hell, Brisbane has 2 bed townhouses 30 minute bus trip to the CBD door to door for 230k. That's a $14,000 or so deposit and a mortgage of ~$1,250 a month. Toowoomba has 4 bed houses for $300k, big backyard and all. There are 11 pages of ads on Seek for jobs paying over 60k in Toowoomba. There are some paying much more than that. Can't cut it in Sydney, Melbourne or Perth? Get over it. There is a whole other country out there and people go to work there every day. You don't automatically get the entitlement to buy a home in your suburb of choice just because you were born there. [/QUOTE]

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