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Sadly I agree with Bloveld to some degree.

There certaintly are times when parties cannot reach agreement.

Generally this occures when one side is being un reasonable.

Sadly again Union involvement generally isnt about being fair and just as a mediatory but as a biased pro worker negotiator.

Middle ground needs to be defined.

If not Business will employ their pro negotiatiors and employees theirs---"Unions".

Thats not the spirit of work place agreements---nor is it desirable---this sort of confrontational We (The employee) V's them (The Employer) is NOT conducive to sound business practice.

If you have to bring in professional negotiators into any work place then you shouldnt be working together.

But I will conceed desirable in some cases and un avoidable in others.

The business world--Employer --Employee will never be perfect.