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Vitamin D changes everything


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But when your tank is full, the left over calcidiol goes to the many cells in the body that are able to make their own calcitriol (for example )to fight cancer””and they do so with gusto!




multiply by 2.5 to get our units nmol/L

So 100nmol/L to 150nmol/L

motorway
 
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Every second person I talk to is telling me that their GP is recommending higher vit D. The research must b fairly solid. either that or the recommended dose has increased - think it might be the latter. Melbourne weather not really helping!
 
What's a Vitamin D deficiency?

Here is a presentation I found interesting:

 
Thanks Motoway for bringing the Vitamin D issues to our attention.

The more I research Vitamin D deficiencies the more profound the problem the problem appears to be. The further you are away from the equator the less D we have in our bodies and this directly correlates to mortality rates from Cancer. In fact you can overlay maps of Cancer death rates over a map of the world to see the astounding correlation.

A study in Japan showed the same, even within the boundaries of their own country - they could map higher cancer rates in areas of lesser UV-B
 
I really am sceptical.

But Ive bought my Vitamin D
Now what dosage do you recommend?
Says 1000IU a day.
I live on the coast get a fair amount of sun but cover up.
 
I really am sceptical.

But Ive bought my Vitamin D
Now what dosage do you recommend?
Says 1000IU a day.
I live on the coast get a fair amount of sun but cover up.

It is harder to get sufficient from the sun than many think
some for interesting reasons ( I will post later )

Heaney and all the D scientists keep raising the level of Optimum
And also the level needed to produce toxicity ( some interesting studies here )

I take 7000 iu a day atm
Also I enjoy the sun

I no longer get sunburn ( post why later )
My resting pulse is twenty beats lower ( sub 50 ) ( The heart is a muscle after all )
At fifty I find I am Physically stronger than I ever have been
I am leaner more Muscular , My recovery from exercise is much improved

My Joints feel great and loose
My eyesight Sharp
Sleep deeper and better
No morning stiffness

And I just feel great

Nothing has ever done this
I have taken Vit C , E Co enzymeQ10 etc

Did they do me good I COULD NOT TELL.. felt no difference
Fish oil made measurable improvements in blood chemistry ( still take )
But did not feel different

Vit D... I feel Different
Feel a million dollars

Also see measurable benefits
in blood chemistry and how people feel --real improvements in real long standing conditions.. In number of others

Just the mood enhancing is tremendous

how much to take
I have gone with

This from http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/
take 5,000 IU per day for 2–3 months, then obtain a 25-hydroxyvitamin D test. Adjust your dosage so that blood levels are between 50–80 ng/mL (or 125–200 nM/L) year-round.

here is a good series from Reinhold Vieth for the general public








Many people are on
medication for blood pressure. Cholesterol and Diabetes

How many Doctors check Vitamin D first ?
If they did how many would need those medications ?

I have seen what happens when D is optimized

and I have FELT the difference

Motorway
 
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Thanks M/W I'm on it!
7000IU
Wow.
Would that vary if your in the sun enough to tan?
 
Thanks M/W I'm on it!
7000IU
Wow.
Would that vary if your in the sun enough to tan?

You will get Some D from the Sun

But if you use Soap and regularly shower
Most will end literally down the drain ( Why many surfers have low D )

Here is some info from - Professor George Jelinek MD site

http://www.overcomingmultiplesclerosis.org/html/newsletter.php?id=ef9ad172

I have decided to supplement and get some SUN

Why SUN too


Professor George Jelinek is the Australian Featured on the 7.30 report the other night
regarding Multiple Sclerosis

He has a nice summary of up to date data



Motorway
 
Doctors and scientists can be confusing sometimes.
First they say get out of the sun, b/c you'll get skin cancer.
Now they're telling us to go back out again and get a tan.
 
This is interesting: from http://www.overcomingmultiplesclerosis.org/html/newsletter.php?id=ef9ad172

Seems like I can get my wife off the calcium as Vitamin D on it's own is enough...

 
This is interesting: from http://www.overcomingmultiplesclerosis.org/html/newsletter.php?id=ef9ad172

Seems like I can get my wife off the calcium as Vitamin D on it's own is enough...

Absolutely...

In fact Magnesium is more important ( get an absorbable form not oxide I use Citrate )
Soils are totally deficient in it

Vitamin D needs it
and bone health needs it
it also has many other benifits

If we look at ancestral diets
calcium to magnesium ratio was about 1 to 1

today we over dose on Calcium
WHY ?

Because people are D deficient
and the thinking is you can force the Calcium into bones with brute force..

But without D the cells are deaf dumb and blind

In the cancer vid
D does not KIll the cancer cells
They kill themselves

D just make things work as it should
Cancer cells are forming in your body moment to moment
With D they repair themselves or suicide

Without D.. cells lose connection and intelligence

What that Vid shows is if it is not too late is that
Getting D back to healthy levels allows the DNA library ( where the information that informs cells what to do,,, not become a cancer cell ,, absorb calcium etc )
to be available

You still need adequate levels of nutrients like calcium
But a reasonable diet will provide most.....

It was D that was missing
levels we would have if we were in the horn of Africa
Levels much higher with no seasonal variation

http://www.healthiertalk.com/natural-blood-pressure-regulator-017


Prescription drugs .. Act like sledge hammers.. They block or turn off key processes

Vitamin D works by allowing intelligent optimized regulation ( here blood pressure . But you name it eg Sugar Metabolism.. )

A whole different thing altogether...



Motorway
 
I did come across a march larger list of agricultural mineral and element deficiencies that have occured over time. I am sure it was one promoting Seafood, but other than Vitamin D reduction due to geographic population shifts, we also have the following to contend with if we are wanting to re-establish our genetically ideal environment.

The combined effect of soil mineral depletion and the reduced availability of those minerals that remain is that most of the food that we eat is mineral deficient. The table below summarizes the reductions in the average mineral content of 27 vegetables and 17 fruits, between 1940 and 1991. The results of the latest research are expected to show mineral values in continual decline.
Reduction in average mineral content of fruit and vegetables between 1940 and 1991

Mineral Vegetables Fruit
Sodium -49% -29%
Potassium -16% -19%
Magnesium -24% -16%
Calcium -46% -16%
Iron -27% -24%
Copper -76% -20%
Zinc -59% -27%


A new study published earlier this year shows that, as might be expected, mineral levels in animal products reflect the picture in plant foods. Comparing levels measured in 2002 with those present in 1940, the iron content of milk was found to be 62% less, calcium and magnesium in parmesan cheese had each fallen by 70% and copper in dairy produce had plummeted by a remarkable 90%.
 
here it is http://www.truehealth.org/atrclist.html

Our daily food, as produced by our modern agriculture, contains:

# 3 - major nutrients (nitrogen, phosphorus and potassium - or N-P-K);
# 6 - minor nutrients (calcium, chloride, magnesium, iron, sodium, sulphur) and
# 5 - trace elements as monitored and maintained in agricultural soils
(boron, copper, manganese, molybdenum, zinc) and
# 3 - trace elements as added at other stages of our nutrition
(iodine in table salt; cobalt in salt licks for cattle and sheep; and selenium in fortified chicken feed)
- for a total of 8 (!) nutritional trace elements.

All of the above vital nutrients are generally available in adequate amounts in today's agriculturally grown food products. However, since cobalt and selenium are added to livestock feed, rather than to the soil, pure vegetarians are at some risk of cobalt and selenium deficiencies.

However, all living things need about 72 (!) biological trace elements - as found throughout nature and in all 'wild' plant and animal life - for the normal function of their metabolism, reproductive and immune systems. Today, the only readily available food which still contains the complete natural range of the 72 biological trace elements is seafood.

etc.......
 

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Vitamin D and hearing loss:


http://www.innvista.com/health/ailments/earail/hearnutr.htm
 
A few years ago I changed my opinion on vitamins and supplements. They changed our family's life, for the better. Thanks for the reminder about vitamin d we had stopped taking it.

I use iherb to get my vitamins from as they sometimes come in larger amounts than what you get here in Oz and usually cheaper. So you aren't taking as many capsules. I usually pay around $12USD for DHL delivery.

The other thing i have found was spreading out the daily dosage for the water-soluble vitamins to 3 - 4 times a day helps. I think Vitamin D is fat soluble so you can take it all at once. Vitamin B, C and Magnesium are water-soluble, I think.

Cheers
aussiepipe
 
Yes Iherb seems great

With D you do not really want to use anything longer than monthly
Dosing ( weekly better and really taking every day I think is better )

You start to get cycle peaks and troughs
Which we are not designed to deal with

( no summer winter on the equator as such )

Vieth has Written a very good paper about why this can be real problem
and have negative heath consequnces.. Also why synthetic D2 causes same problems

There are lag effects when levels fluctuate
Imbalances !


some more D
I have found large personal effect for me regarding this..




Thanks for the mineral info Roland
Wild Fish is the last natural food maybe

Motorway
 
Doctors and scientists can be confusing sometimes.
First they say get out of the sun, b/c you'll get skin cancer.
Now they're telling us to go back out again and get a tan.

Melanoma is what worries people


This is if you get Sun exposure or not ... The inability to Tan is the risk factor...

I have fair skin hazel Eyes
I have found I do not sun burn anymore
( But you still want to treat the Sun with respect )








John Jacob Cannell MD
Executive Director http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/



Women who regularly sunbathe live longer, a leading cancer specialist has claimed.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...er-say-scientists-Lund-University-Sweden.html

There is also Vitamin Ds regulation of Glutathione


Besides reducing inflammatory cytokines, vitamin D does one more thing: it increases concentrations of glutathione””The master antioxidant and Detoxifier.

Glutathione does about everhthing you can think of ... Unlike Vitamin C & E etc
glutathione exists within the cells, it is in a prime position to neutralize free radicals.

remove heavy metals
protect against Sunburn
protect the Brain etc etc

Motorway
 
Another reason for why supplements ( with D3 ! in the earlier quote from Hollick, It looks to me he was talking about D2 )



Good short Vid
with a good punchline

"I'll see you in Acapulco"


Motorway
 
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Motorway - interesting point re washing. With humanity becoming more and more paranoid about sterility (anti-bac handwashes etc etc) and better hygiene, have we swapped some diseases for something else? From what Dr Cannell suggests we aren't helping ourselves. And this likely all ties into the increase in allergen sensitivity in the population.

I shall have to get my books out again when I get back home!

What Vit D suppl do you use, If I may ask?
 
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