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Knobby22

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Well Labor under Brumby is trying to get re-elected but I think they have failed as a government and it is only NSW that is making them look good.

I am upset about how many spin doctors they have hired with our taxes, the secrecy to which they run the government, their failure on crime, the stupid deal they did with the desal plant which means I will be paying 4 times as much for my water, the lousy public transport system they have failed to invest in, the saturation advertising over the last ten years - feel like I'm in a communist state and finally doing a deal with the Hazlewood power station when they had a chance to shut it down for free and now asking the Fed government to pay off the owners to shut it down.

I will be voting Liberal then Green, independant - labor last.
 
Knobby22 said:
...I will be voting Liberal then Green, independant - labor last.
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A vote for greens seems to be as good as a vote for labor as they would most likely back a labor minority government. After watching Oakeshott and Windsor turn their back on their conservative electorates, it doesn't give one much confidence in independents either...

The preferential system is becomming a joke, IMO. It is a shame we have to even enter a number for the party or parties we absolutely don't want.

As we have seen in the federal election, in some instances preferences gave results that the majority of voters did not want.
 
One thing that get's up my nose is the freakin $1.5 Billion Myki transport card white elephant, one of daughters uses an annual $385 Myki card to pay for the bus to and from college each day and so far I have had to get the card replaced 5 times because the Myki reader on the bus will not read the card. (This involves filling out paperwork and then head down to the train station to wait in line, the ticket dude tells me each time yeah we get heaps of faulty cards each week)

We were in Hong Kong last year and they have the "Octopus card" which you can use for trains, ferries,buses and quite a few other things, WTF didn't they just buy the rights to use their system, Labor and money do not mix...
 
Knobby22 said:
feel like I'm in a communist state and finally doing a deal with the Hazlewood power station when they had a chance to shut it down for free and now asking the Fed government to pay off the owners to shut it down.
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There's no free lunch to be had. Shutting it down comes with the cost of a replacement which, realistically, would either be a modern brown coal power station or nuclear. Neither of those are cheap - $ billions and someone will be paying for that. The reason they've kept that 46 year old plant running is because doing so is incredibly cheap - in the order of $4 per MWh or no more than one tenth the cost of building and operating a replacement.

As for Vic politics generally, thank heavens I don't live there. Even to visitors, the place is starting to feel like a police state compared to NSW, SA, Tas etc.
 
Unfortunately it looks like Vic Labour has managed to get all the Unions on side - even the psycho Dean Mighell wants to play ball. The Greens actually sound glad to be rid of his support.

At this stage I will be putting Labour last given their planning processes are a complete shambles. Some oeople have long memories - unveiling a half finished South Cross stations because "people are idiots and they wont notice the inside isn't finished" shouldn't have been rewarded last time.
 
It's smear by Twitter as Labor staffers go underground

 
State labor is like the annoying relatives that overstay their welcome. They make a mess, waste money and make you feel a little uneasy. And just when you think they are going for sure they manage to stick around even longer
 
Big swing in Victoria yesterday! Two Ministers and the Speaker gone.

http://bigpondnews.com/articles/Top...oria_staring_at_a_hung_parliament_544746.html
Sunday, November 28, 2010

Labor is staring down the barrel of defeat in Victoria after being battered by a 6.1 per cent swing at the polls.

Late on Saturday, the ALP had lost as many as 12 seats in the state election, with another five hanging in the balance.

And a further seat snatched from independent MP Craig Ingram by the Nationals could give the coalition the 13 seats it needs to win government.

.....The tally was firming as 45 seats to the coalition, 38 to Labor, with five Labor seats still too close to call.

The coalition needs 45 of the 88 lower house seats to form majority government, putting the Liberal Nationals within striking distance of a win.

Two ministers and the speaker of the lower house were among Labor's early casualties.

....with no Greens or independents in the lower house...
 
I noticed early in the counting that the swing against Labour was higher, then it eased back.
Hopefully that early swing percentage will again appear in pre - election votes.
This will then enhance the opportunity for the coalition to pick up a couple more seats from those undecided.

Hopefully the wave will turn and continue to gain momentum in NSW and QLD.

Cheers.
 
Looks like the Greens in Canberra have already done enough damage for it to flow on to the state elections.

For a group concerned about the future they are fairly short sighted.

Good move by the Libs to put them on the bottom of the preferences.
 
moXJO said:
State labor is like the annoying relatives that overstay their welcome. They make a mess, waste money and make you feel a little uneasy. And just when you think they are going for sure they manage to stick around even longer
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Ain't that too true!


Hear, hear!

Unfortunately our current LNP leader in Qld, John-Paul Langbroek , is behaving more like the power drunk sailers of the ALP, dictating policy more like a dictator than a leader. If I heard correctly another recent poll while having the LNP improving over Labor, a former Nat leader is gaining more 'public' support as leader than Langbroek.

I wonder if Langbrook is joining the dots and sees the comparrison with Howards demise and Labor's increasing 'arrogant out of touch' leadership.
 

Thank god they didn't slide in on preferences. Bob brown isnt happy that he now has to get actual votes.


I guess that means payback by the greens
 
joea said:
Hopefully the wave will turn and continue to gain momentum in NSW and QLD.
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G'day Joea, watch this space...NSW in March 2011. It's not salvageable for the Keneally government, and Labor MP's are bailing out, new retirements by the week. Just a question of how far.

It's a shame for the Premier, I like her style, she has had to clean up the mess left by those who preceded her.

From what I've heard, and read from our QLD mates in here, the QLD Labor govt looks pretty shakey as well.
 
Labor have been in for 11 years which is way long enough, I like the big feller Ted and wish him well but don't think he will solve the current problems in VIC.

Your population has gone crazy to the point of public transport passengers doubling over 10 years Coalitions are infamous for not investing in infrastructure.

In WA they opposed every rail line ever installed Perth Mandurah being the latest all on the case of a business cost analysis sound familiar?

I will be fascinated on what they will do with the desal plant?
 
Logique
I certainally agree with you on the Premier of NSW.
I have often wondered how QLD would be going with the likes of her as a Premier.
On listening to her speak, you would conclude she is made for politics.
And it was a big job for her to clean up the mess.
Cheers.
 
The Labor dominoes continue to fall. W.A down.....Victoria down......NSW next and can't wait for Queensland election 2012.....going,going,gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Great result.
Labor did very little on public transport, Ted is a moderate and I am sure he will do better on investing in it. If he doesn't he will be voted out.
The last Premier who invested big on public transport was Sir Rupert Hamer, a liberal so saying the Coalition won't invest is untrue though there have been some poor examples recently.

We are stuck with the contract for the Desal plant unfortunately.
 
From the link in post above:
For the past few weeks, every prediction by the Greens - that they would claim 18 per cent of the vote, win four lower House seats and control the balance of power in Victoria - was breathlessly reported by the media.
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I see the Greens mistake here. The predictions came from the same computer that makes the climate change models.
 
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