Re: Vistigial Organs evolution myth
ktrianta said:
It never ceases to amaze me, how precious people are about their belief in the theory of evolution. It seems to me that people seem to believe that the theory of evolution should be above criticism and that any attack on any aspect of it is a like to a red rag to a bull to the neo darwinian zealots.
I am as precious about evolution as I am any other scientific theory. It, like other theories, is the best explanation we have for what we see around us using our current understanding. They are not static. Once written down they are not incommutable. They are there to be questioned, improved or pulled down.
When any scientific theory is attempted to be discredited or attacked by groups or ideas that have little to no scientific credibility of course people will rally to the theories defence.
You say that you are not attacking evolution and imply that you are posting this for the benefit of scientific discussion:
ktrianta said:
This is ... thread ... is about one aspect of a theory which was widely taught as fact but has now been discredited.
It is not an attack on the whole edifice.
Was I the only one who was taught this in science at high school?
Though, your language within the thread, and indeed the title of the thread,
Vistigial Organs evolution myth, does not gel with your stated objectives;
ktrianta said:
Another evolution myth bites the dust.
ktrianta said:
Always remember how in my high school science classes, this myth was proudly trotted out as proof for evolution.
Makes you wonder what sort of other nonsense we were taught back then.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt when you were attacked for peddling another agenda in the
Dino to Bird Evolution Myth, but you are back again and are again describing a potentially superseded aspect of a theory as a
Myth.
I do not believe you have posted these for the simple discussion of science. You have stated elsewhere that you do not believe in evolution and that you believe in creation. Why would you then be attempting to foster a discussion on the finer points of the theory of evolution when you don't believe in evolution?
ktrianta said:
My belief is in the traditional christian belief as expressed in God's revealation to us in the Bible.
ktrianta said:
...The fact that the universe follows certain laws is a better fit with a Creator God than a random explosion...
If a creator God exists, then it would be logical to assume that Natural selection is a better fit with a creator who creates using economy of design so that species adapt to their environment as they spread accross the earth. (speciation is indeed an intergarl part of creation models).
A creator God who creates different kinds to reproduce within their boundaries, is more logical than relying on random genetic copying errors to result in dinosaurs changing to birds to humans etc.
... I acknowledge that the biggest weakness in my position is that if you do not believe in a Creator god, then you cannot accept what I believe and that is fair enough and I respect your opinion but we both cannot be correct...
...God created all space, time and matter and it is ridiculous to limit God to the creation boundaries he has placed us in...
So ktrianta what are you really trying to achieve here?