VAS - Vanguard Australian Shares Index ETF

[donteventryit]

Doesn't seem to be a thread for this, so here goes.

Please see link to Vanguard page outlining details of the new offering - PDS, fact sheets, announcements etc.

http://www.vanguard.com.au/personal_investors/investment/etfs/etfs_home.cfm

Marginally cheaper than STW at 0.27% versus 0.286% (plus some buy/sell spreads).

As far as I am aware, not on any margin lenders approved lists as yet - however this won't take long.

The ETF aims to replicate the total return of the ASX 300 before taking into account fees and expenses.

This is supposed to be launched today, however not currently coming up on ASX, so look out for it on Monday.

 

[Nyden]

Shows up for me, with a volume of only 715!

I like STW because the big boys actually keep it in line with the index, or close enough to it.

 

[donteventryit]

Shows up for me, with a volume of only 715!

I like STW because the big boys actually keep it in line with the index, or close enough to it.

Also, (now ) showing up for me with a volume of 915.

In regards to "keeping in line with the index", Vanguard have the following info:

You can buy or sell Vanguard ETFs at any time throughout the ASX trading day. Market liquidity for ETFs is maintained by ‘market-makers’ who ensure that buy and sell prices are quoted continuously on the ASX. The structure of ETFs ensures this investment generally trades close to the Net Asset Value (NAV).​

 

[dsduncs]

Interesting comparison this with STW (red) and S&P200 (XJO) over the last 2 months.. STW has provided a dividend over in early July which may be the difference.

 

[So_Cynical]

Interesting comparison this with STW (red) and S&P200 (XJO) over the last 2 months.. STW has provided a dividend over in early July which may be the difference.

Strange as bigcharts shows a different story, with VAS lagging both the index and STW....i also did a comparison with XKO (ASX300) and the result was alot closer...as u would expect i spose, since VAS tracks the XKO.

One of the big differences between the two funds is market cap

• VAS Market Cap: 16,867,200
• STW Market Cap: 1,539,003,959

STW is also very active in the options market.

 

[sitk]

Whether you decide to invest in VAS over STW or not, we should just be happy there's a bit more competition building in the aussie ETF sector, which is lagging the US product range and cost ratios quite badly.

 

[osmosis]

Another difference:

STW -- tracks ASX 200; dividends paid bi-annually. (annual fee 0.27%)
VAS -- tracks ASX 300; distributions paid quarterly.(annual Fee 0.286%)

 

[The Barbarian Investor]

Another difference:

STW -- tracks ASX 200; dividends paid bi-annually. (annual fee 0.27%)
VAS -- tracks ASX 300; distributions paid quarterly.(annual Fee 0.286%)

And higher overall dividend for VAS

 

[The Barbarian Investor]

VAS has adjusted their MER, now around 0.18 from memory and being an ASX 300 rather than ASX 200 may offer some advantages over the long term

Is there an actual "Index" fund available, or only the aforementioned ?

 

[ahyeah]

Sorry to bump but I'm new here,


looking for any calculators that people have found online to perform back testing on Vanguard ETFs.

 

[QuietGrowth]

Please note that VAS tracks ASX 300. It is more diversified compared to ASX 200.

We at QuietGrowth has VAS in our portfolios, to represent the Australian shares asset class.

 

[MrBurns]

Just got the dividend notification for VAS seems to be 19c for 3 months, isn't that low for a share worth $66 ?

Or am I missing something.....?

 

[Ves]

Just got the dividend notification for VAS seems to be 19c for 3 months, isn't that low for a share worth $66 ?

Or am I missing something.....?

Without looking at it in massive detail a few things that stood out in the last quarter which would affect the VAS payout:

-BHP cut it's dividend dramatically
-RIO cut it's dividend by a fair chunk as well
-CBA's dividend was paid 31 March rather than in April this year (so VAS paid this out in the previous quarter)

There's probably a few others. When an index is skewed towards a few big companies the payouts can be pretty volatile.

 

[MrBurns]

Without looking at it in massive detail a few things that stood out in the last quarter which would affect the VAS payout:

-BHP cut it's dividend dramatically
-RIO cut it's dividend by a fair chunk as well
-CBA's dividend was paid 31 March rather than in April this year (so VAS paid this out in the previous quarter)

There's probably a few others. When an index is skewed towards a few big companies the payouts can be pretty volatile.

Ok thanks, that's miserable at best.

 

[skyQuake]

Ok thanks, that's miserable at best.

They pay quarterly - see attached

Inception in 2009 so yield started off as 0

 

[MrBurns]

They pay quarterly - see attached

Inception in 2009 so yield started off as 0

Looks like I'd be better off just putting it in Australian Super.

In fact I've been thinking lately that's an easier option for all my Super , they seem to get reasonable returns.

 

[Lone Wolf]

I only have 5 min for my lunch break so this may have an error, DYOR.

I googled for VAS div and got:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/mark.../vanguard-australian-shares-index-etf?page=-1

I used excel to total the div for each year:



It seems that, assuming the Oct payout is similar to previous years, we are still on track for this time of year. But there have been cuts this year so I'm expecting Oct to be less.

And yes, that should be dividend totals, not divident.

 

[MrBurns]

I only have 5 min for my lunch break so this may have an error, DYOR.

I googled for VAS div and got:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/mark.../vanguard-australian-shares-index-etf?page=-1

I used excel to total the div for each year:


It seems that, assuming the Oct payout is similar to previous years, we are still on track for this time of year. But there have been cuts this year so I'm expecting Oct to be less.

And yes, that should be dividend totals, not divident.

Looks like 4.4% so far this year, less management costs, less capital loss...Australian Super still looks a better bet.

 

[poverty]

Been talking about this on another forum. It looks like a few big bank dividends were paid a couple of days later this year than last year which has pushed them out of the Q2 distribution and into the Q3. This dividend last year was 75% franked, this year less than 8% franked.

 

[JonhyRico]

Any major differences between VAF and IOZ?