US Presidential Elections

We've got a thread on Obama and McCain but none on the actulal election.

Who do you want to be the next US President?

After watching the debate yesterday, without a doubt I want Obama.

He is more "Presidential" than McCain IMO.

he is calmer, has more thought out responses and a better presence about him.

I could easily see McCain dying in the next 4 years then the world would be stuck with a woman who only got her passport 4 months ago.



So for me it's Obama 2008

I would've voted for Ron Paul.

Now, Obama would get my vote. I just hope they don't shoot him.

fimmwolf said:

I would've voted for Ron Paul.

Now, Obama would get my vote. I just hope they don't shoot him.

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Would have voted for Paul, but will now vote for Obama? Do you realize that, except for the war in Iraq, Ron Paul is the polar opposite of Obama? He is against everything Obama stands for, EVERYTHING.

McCain didn't seem to like Paul's policies too much either as I recall.

fimmwolf said:

I would've voted for Ron Paul.

Now, Obama would get my vote. I just hope they don't shoot him.

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Ron Paul for president HANDS DOWN. But, I dont have a vote so...

Ron Paul sound like a porno name.

Blame it on the machine...

Something smells... like Florida did eight years ago.

34 states affected, yet Ohio caused their own problem??


From David Plouffe today:

Election Day isn't ahead of us -- it's already here.

Early voting has begun in eight states -- including the key battleground of Ohio, where voting begins today -- and it will be starting in a dozen more over the next two weeks.


A voting system used in 34 states contains a critical programming error that can cause votes to be dropped while being electronically transferred from memory cards to a central tallying point, the manufacturer acknowledges.

A nationwide customer alert with recommended actions was issued Tuesday by Premier. Approximately 1,750 jurisdictions use the flawed system. Both Maryland and Virginia use it, although Virginia does not relay its votes to a central counting point, which is where the problem surfaces, Riggall said.

The problem was identified after complaints from Ohio elections officials following the March primary there, but the logic error that is the root of the problem has been part of the software for 10 years, said Chris Riggall, a spokesman for Premier Election Solutions, formerly known as Diebold.

The flawed software is on both touch screen and optical scan voting machines made by Premier and the problem with vote counts is most likely to affect larger jurisdictions that feed many memory cards to a central counting database rapidly.

Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner has said no Ohio votes were lost because the nine Ohio counties that found the problem caught it before primary results were finalized.

As recently as May, Premier said the problem was not of its making but stemmed from anti-virus software that Ohio had installed on its machines. It also briefly said the mistakes could have come from human mistakes. Further testing by Ohio elections officials and then high volume tests by Premier uncovered the programming error.

The mistake is not immediately apparent, Riggall said, and would have to be caught when elections officials went to match how many memory cards they fed into a central database against how many show as being read by that database. Each card carries a unique marker.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/21/ohio_voting_machines_contained.html

sam76 said:

Ron Paul sound like a porno name.

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i wont comment on where i think you got your avatar from

agro said:

i wont comment on where i think you got your avatar from

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ummmm google 'Chuck Norris Avatars"?

Russell Crowe may just nominate and call his party "Pork Barrell Party". He has started his advertising.

Neither/doesn't matter. Really, what is going to change? There are larger forces at work.

Might backfire on the GOPs..

How To Rig An Election!

http://www.iftheworldcouldvote.com/

It is always unfortunate when Teachers attempt to influence the minds of their pupils in order to make them vote one way or another.

This piece from a Teacher's Union which backs the Democratic candidate. It will probably backfire in McCain's favour.

gg


FOXNews.com

Thursday, October 02, 2008

Virginia Republicans are in an uproar after the state teacher's union sent an e-mail to its members encouraging them to wear blue-colored shirts to school to show their support for Barack Obama.

State Republicans are calling it an undisguised attempt to influence students' political views.

The Virginia Education Association sponsored "Obama Blue Day" on Tuesday. In an e-mail sent last week, it urged teachers to participate by dressing in blue.

"There are people out there not yet registered. You teach some of them," the Sept. 25 e-mail reads. "Others, including our members, remain on the fence! Its time for us to come together, voice our unity, because we make a difference!"

"Let's make Obama Blue Day a day of Action!" the e-mail continues. "Barack the vote!"

In a statement released to FOXNews.com Thursday, VEA President Kitty Boitnott defended the e-mail, saying that it called for teachers to wear blue shirts, but not ones that mentioned a candidate.

The invitation was not intended to "encourage teachers to use their classrooms for partisan political purposes," Boitnott said.

"The e-mail did not encourage teachers to talk with students about voting for any specific candidate, although it did suggest that teachers can encourage eligible students to register to vote. There certainly is nothing wrong with encouraging students who are 18 years of age or older to register to vote."

But many state Republicans are miffed by the plan, which they characterize as an obvious attempt by the teachers union to encourage young, impressionable voters to cast their ballots for Obama.

"It's a breach of public trust on many levels," Virginia Republican Party Communications Director Gerry Scimeca told FOXNews.com.

Scimeca, who described the VEA as a "very political organization," said the school environment is "a completely inappropriate place for teachers or education staff to be politicking on behalf of any candidate. Parents send their kids to school to get a bipartisan education."

The controversy surrounding the VEA's "Obama Blue Day" is not the only clash between partisan politics and education this election season.

The teachers union in New York has also come under fire for distributing thousands of Obama campaign buttons to its members, prompting a backlash from education officials and parents.

"Schools are not a place for politics and not a place for staff to wear political buttons," New York Department of Education spokeswoman Ann Forte told FOXNews.com.

"We don't want a school or school staff advocating for any political position or candidate to students and we don't want students feeling intimidated because they might hold a different belief or support a different candidate than their teachers," she said.



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I believe I heard today on ABC that Aussies are 76 / 13 for Obama / McCain respectively.
Pretty much the same as this thread .

Any turkey like Obamawho would delay the World Series by 30 minutes does not deserve the vote of any red blooded American.

However many Yanks are enthralled by the short term Hollywood ethic.

Viva McCain. Viva Palin.

gg

election... soon??? well budder me... something else I missed..

Cheers
.........Kauri

looks like America will have it's first black President.

I wonder what the odds are for Obama being assasinated in his first 12 months of office....

sam76 said:

looks like America will have it's first black President.

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Yeah, pretty convincingly too.

Saw a little clip where ther were even glued to their tv's in Africa in expectation.