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Hard. Hard. Hard. Hard.
Who'd have thought that buying low and selling high could cause a heart attack?
I mean my system told me to make 700 trades in the last two years, 400 of which were profitable, and 300 of which lost money but were stopped out before they could do me any damage. I didn't even get the excitement of loosing a big wad of cash and have to play poker with my mates in my spare time to get that thrill of losing money in a risky situation.I made two profitable trades and and two bad trades which has put my net profit back to 0. My capital is back to around $4,000 and I am trading some speculative and volatile mining shares. I would love to trade ASX200 top-dogs but I feel I need $50,000 capital to make some okay profits.. and I am using this money now to learn all the lessons that I cannot learn on paper!
It is as important as you make it be. I know that sounds like a wishy washy answer Sommi, but the way that you will trade needs to be the result of experience using the tools that you understand and are comfortable when using. If you are comfortable in using nothing but TA - great!, comfortable only using complicated FA models - great! If you are starting out examine a range of different techniques for the one's that will most suit you. (or build your own).I just want to ask a few experienced people about the importance of a few things.
1. Firstly, how important is it to know the stock you're trading? By this I mean, watching it for a few weeks/months to see how the buy/sell pattern pan out and the unexpected events happen. I do more technical work than fundamental work and focus on volume and chart-work.
2. Secondly, my plan is to swing-trade in periods of 3-4 days (on average) but I got carried away (greedy) and tried intra-day trading and it wiped my profits.
How often should I expect my 'time barrier' to change? Should I focus on keeping it strict or should I focus more on locking away certain profits after Buying and not letting the intra-day activity give me stress attacks..
Thanks.
A plan without knowledge of profitability is nothing more than an idea.finding a profitable trading method
But for the past 12 months I have been doing extra-research into T/A because I like watching the randomness of the market.
Hi Sommi,
Well your degree certainly won't hurt...but I came to realize fairly quickly after my degree that what academics do versus the harsh realities of the market are poles apart.
Your statement that most of what you have learnt so far says you can't trade profitably sounds like you've been listening to the old EMH (Efficient Market Hypothesis) and Modern Portfolio Theory.
If this is the case there are some significant criticisms of the above couple of theories, only strengthened by the recent financial crisis.
Is the market random? I'd have to disagree with you there. To me the market is chaotic - which is very different to random, and exploitable to those who can figure out how to do so.
Cheers
Sir O
t for the past 12 months I have been doing extra-research into T/A because I like watching the randomness of the market. I still haven't got a system yet because my capital is so low and I'm unable to buy live software and charting tool programs. Is this shooting myself in the foot?
Gut feel day trading would have to be the most profitable 'system' I have seen, by a long shot.
Since you don't really want an answer, I won't bother giving you one.
lol ....... what a copout
no offense intended
Market looks like a random walk, but it isn't, otherwise there would be no such thing as a trend.
Market is a chaotic system which becomes quantised in fractal dimensions as information enters and exits the system in those dimensions. Information in this case being the forces of supply and demand.
I fall into the boring mechanical category with what I currently do, but I'm working on other methods.
A fun, fast paced 100% discretionary system, similar to what iPod from HC used, but applying some psychological rules in place of profit targets and stop losses would be the ultimate. iPod (and to a lesser degree Trembling Hand from this site) was the only highly profitable day trader on that ****ty website and they banned him. He was brilliant. Just going through his old posts makes me think 'wow'. Gut feel day trading would have to be the most profitable 'system' I have seen work, by a long shot.... but possibly also the hardest to master, depending on your starting point.
I have no idea who iPod is
Why would I answer some rude smart-**** who knows it all already?
You can have a trend in a random walk. The usual example being coin tosses: [assuming all the fair coin provisions] flip enough coins and you will get random runs of heads/tails. Look at charts generated by coin tosses, very similar to price charts.
For pedant reasons: random walk = stochastic process
Stochastic trends differ to deterministic - the latter is what most try separate from the noise to exploit.
So you are arguing that a random walk = a process involving a randomly determined sequence of observations each of which is considered as a sample of one element from a probability distribution.
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