Tony Abbott for PM

IFocus · 25 March 2011

Don't think anyone has mentioned the latest news poll

Newspoll: 51-49 to Labor

Other than the rebound for labor and Gillard as leader Abbott continues his bad polling.

I expect after this week with Gillard standing up to the arrogant and reckless Abbott performance she will gain ground again.

One thing that Abbott will have a problem with is Gillard remains composed and polite particularly when cornered where he tends to completely screw it up.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2011/03/21/essential-research-53-47-to-coalition/

Newspoll seems to have hit upon a particularly bad sample for Tony Abbott, whose approval is down six to 33 per cent and disapproval up three to 54 per cent. However, this has not transferred into a huge improvement for Julia Gillard, who after a shocking result last week is up a point on approval to 40 per cent and down four on disapproval to 47 per cent. On preferred prime minister however she is almost back to where she was a month ago: over the past three polls it has progressed from 53-31 to 45-36 to 50-31.

drsmith · 25 March 2011

IFocus said:
Don't think anyone has mentioned the latest news poll

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16184&p=620959&viewfull=1#post620959

sails · 25 March 2011

IFocus said:
...One thing that Abbott will have a problem with is Gillard remains composed and polite particularly when cornered where he tends to completely screw it up....

She seems to forget her manners in parliament. She refused several times to answer Abbott's question if she would be in the lodge today ihad she been honest about her carbon tax before the election.

Instead of an answer, she rants off into all sorts of nasty, sneering attacks on Abbott that seemingly had little to do the the question from Abbott. Seems she is taking full advantage of parliamentary privilege with these despicable outbursts.

noco · 25 March 2011

IFocus said:
Don't think anyone has mentioned the latest news poll

Other than the rebound for labor and Gillard as leader Abbott continues his bad polling.

I expect after this week with Gillard standing up to the arrogant and reckless Abbott performance she will gain ground again.

One thing that Abbott will have a problem with is Gillard remains composed and polite particularly when cornered where he tends to completely screw it up.

http://blogs.crikey.com.au/pollbludger/2011/03/21/essential-research-53-47-to-coalition/

AND NEXT WEEK?????????????????????? ifocus might be shedding tears.

Julia · 25 March 2011

Logique said:
I've consistently supported Abbott over Turnbull,
but was less than impressed by the limp-wristed defense of the everyday working Australians who took a peaceful protest to Canberra.

Strips should have been torn off anyone who dared to call these people 'extremists', or worse 'deniers', a filthy smear with it's holocaust overtones. And why so sheepish over the media beat up about placards?

Tony do you have any staff at all? Any researchers? John Howard was called Satan, and burnt in effigy. What about the G8 and G20 protestors, and violence and disorder they brought? Where was the pious breast-beating of Brown and Gillard then?

Golden opportunity on the 7:30 Report - wasted. Gillard would not have sat back so passively.

It was a completely pathetic performance by Mr Abbot. Anyone who was not sure what to think of him would have been fully persuaded against him even if just on the basis of his hesitations and lack of conviction.

One thing that Abbott will have a problem with is Gillard remains composed and polite particularly when cornered where he tends to completely screw it up.

Good lord, have you listened to Ms Gillard in Question Time??
I just cringe when her shrill voice rises ever higher as she screams irrelevant abuse at her opponent. Horrible.

The whole spectrum of politicians on all sides is totally depressing imo. That we should have such a rabble running the country, or wanting to, is a tragedy.

drsmith · 25 March 2011

Julia said:
It was a completely pathetic performance by Mr Abbot. Anyone who was not sure what to think of him would have been fully persuaded against him even if just on the basis of his hesitations and lack of conviction.

It didn't start too good, but did improve as the interview went on.

I suspect he was trying to restrain hemself. Overall though, I would agree. He is still less than convincing.

todster · 26 March 2011

Put Tony in and bring on some pure comedy
The ASF righties dream
Footy and Abbott gold
Where do i vote?

todster · 26 March 2011

Logique said:
I've consistently supported Abbott over Turnbull,
but was less than impressed by the limp-wristed defense of the everyday working Australians who took a peaceful protest to Canberra.

Strips should have been torn off anyone who dared to call these people 'extremists', or worse 'deniers', a filthy smear with it's holocaust overtones. And why so sheepish over the media beat up about placards?

Tony do you have any staff at all? Any researchers? John Howard was called Satan, and burnt in effigy. What about the G8 and G20 protestors, and violence and disorder they brought? Where was the pious breast-beating of Brown and Gillard then?

Golden opportunity on the 7:30 Report - wasted. Gillard would not have sat back so passively.

John Howard was satan lost his own seat end of story

sails · 26 March 2011

todster said:
John Howard was satan lost his own seat end of story

Hmmm - bile, pure bile.

How about contributing some reasoned posts instead of nasty, defamatory stuff like this?

And what does John Howard have to do with this thread? In fact the post to which you replied was comparing Turnbull and Abbott???

Garpal Gumnut · 26 March 2011

I have no doubt that Tony made a tactical error in appearing with 3000 citizens and two silly posters at the recent rally in Canberra.

The basketweavers chants will be a distant memory when the next election is called, carbon tax, Labor rats in the ranks, Rudd in the ranks, and, a major federal Labor scandal about to erupt after polling closes in NSW.

Now is the time to make these stupid mistakes, if those two posters had not been there, he would have been lauded.

gg

sails · 26 March 2011

Garpal Gumnut said:
I have no doubt that Tony made a tactical error in appearing with 3000 citizens and two silly posters at the recent rally in Canberra.

The basketweavers chants will be a distant memory when the next election is called, carbon tax, Labor rats in the ranks, Rudd in the ranks, and, a major federal Labor scandal about to erupt after polling closes in NSW.

Now is the time to make these stupid mistakes, if those two posters had not been there, he would have been lauded.

gg

Did Abbott know those placards were there? Whether they were a plant from greens, labor or getup or a couple of angry people at the rally, it was in a public place where anyone could front up with any sort of placard.

Abbott had his back to the placards, so it raises the real question if he knew they were there.

If he did, or if his minders saw them and did nothing, then agree it was very foolish.

The labor scandal to break after the NSW election closes sounds interesting...

Logique · 26 March 2011

Garpal Gumnut said:
..., and, a major federal Labor scandal about to erupt after polling closes in NSW...

This piqued my interest.

Interesting how often both sides refer back to Howard as the yardstick of PM'ship.

Or for T, satan'ship. Howard didn't care about the name calling, he just got on with it.

Logique · 26 March 2011

From: Paul Kelly, Editor-at-large, The Australian March 26, 2011: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...d-down-and-dirty/story-e6frgd0x-1226028337035

This is Gillard's opening against Abbott. "He is not a Liberal in the tradition of Liberals past," she said, attacking Abbott. Her argument, would you believe, is that Abbott wasn't Howard.

Yes, Howard has become the new Labor hero, the man who finally acted on climate change, who wanted to price carbon. Climate Change Minister Greg Combet quoted Howard saying: "No great challenge has ever yielded to fear or guilt. Nor will this one."

In case you are confused, this Howard, the heroic champion of climate change action, is the same Howard denigrated by Labor throughout 2007 for refusing to confront the problem.

todster · 26 March 2011

sails said:
Hmmm - bile, pure bile.

How about contributing some reasoned posts instead of nasty, defamatory stuff like this?

And what does John Howard have to do with this thread? In fact the post to which you replied was comparing Turnbull and Abbott???

Ask the person i quoted???
Reasoned like the people Abbott chooses to be seen with????
44 gallon drums full of bile

Garpal Gumnut · 26 March 2011

sails said:
Did Abbott know those placards were there? Whether they were a plant from greens, labor or getup or a couple of angry people at the rally, it was in a public place where anyone could front up with any sort of placard.

The labor scandal to break after the NSW election closes sounds interesting...

Good point sails, Tony's minders need a biff.

I am obviously unable to comment on the Federal scandal about to erupt, I don't have the ALP legal fund to protect me against slander and calumny etc.etc..

Some good people will be affected, and the usual detritus.

gg

Julia · 26 March 2011

Logique said:
Howard didn't care about the name calling, he just got on with it.

Exactly right. He would never have stooped to the sort of name calling and personal insults that our two leaders are engaging in at present.

The brawling we're seeing at present diminishes both of them.

sails · 26 March 2011

todster said:
Ask the person i quoted???
Reasoned like the people Abbott chooses to be seen with????
44 gallon drums full of bile

Sorry, it's all spin unless...

you actually know if Abbott knew who was behind him
and you actually know if Abbott planned that whole backdrop...

If not, then don't post it as fact...
I have already agreed that if he knew, it was very foolish. But we don't have all the facts. Maybe Abbott's minders aren't doing their job properly and failed to tell him. Perhaps I should apply...lol

Oh, that's right NSW is going to the polls today so are all the laborites out in force today to mock Abbott?

That seems to be all labor know how to do - denigrate the opposition. Normally, good governments get on with governing and leave the opposing to the opposition. As Logique said, Howard got on with governing. Ms Gillard is become more and more tiring every day she keeps up these childish tirades on Abbott.

Do labor think they are the ones in opposition? Gillard seems to have trouble answering any question with a direct answer and seems to spend most of question time opposing Abbott.

The more Abbott is attacked so visciously from the left, the more I think he must be doing OK despite his shortcomings and labor are desperate for him to be replaced by the seemingly more labor friendly Turnbull who would likely side with them.

Does Gillard forget that Abbott is not PM yet? ... Perhaps she needs to stop trying to be the "opposition"...

todster · 26 March 2011

sails said:
Sorry, it's all spin unless...

you actually know if Abbott knew who was behind him
and you actually know if Abbott planned that whole backdrop...

If not, then don't post it as fact...
I have already agreed that if he knew, it was very foolish. But we don't have all the facts. Maybe Abbott's minders aren't doing their job properly and failed to tell him. Perhaps I should apply...lol

Oh, that's right NSW is going to the polls today so are all the laborites out in force today to mock Abbott?

That seems to be all labor know how to do - denigrate the opposition. Normally, good governments get on with governing and leave the opposing to the opposition. As Logique said, Howard got on with governing. Ms Gillard is become more and more tiring every day she keeps up these childish tirades on Abbott.

Do labor think they are the ones in opposition? Gillard seems to have trouble answering any question with a direct answer and seems to spend most of question time opposing Abbott.

The more Abbott is attacked so visciously from the left, the more I think he must be doing OK despite his shortcomings and labor are desperate for him to be replaced by the seemingly more labor friendly Turnbull who would likely side with them.

Does Gillard forget that Abbott is not PM yet? ... Perhaps she needs to stop trying to be the "opposition"...

He had a choice and as per usual acted before engaging his pea sized brain.
You make every excuse for him except the truth that he has very poor judgement
NSW what do they do?

sails · 26 March 2011

todster said:
John Howard was satan lost his own seat end of story

Well todster, it looks like your favoured party now loves John Howard - perhaps you need to change your line...lol:

More here on labor's new found adoration from the Drum: Labor's love affair with JWH

The Prime Minister - the very same La Gillardine who popped the former PM's head on a pike as she ran his Work Choices out of town - simply cannot, these days, get him off her mind. On Monday, it was recollections of his honesty that particularly enthralled her, as she lauded Mr Howard's 2007 campaign promise to put a price on carbon.

IFocus · 27 March 2011

Mike Calton just makes a couple of minor points about the people who turned up the other day

This guy wants to run Australia might need some new specs

''They're a representative snapshot of middle Australia,'' Tony Abbott assured the TV cameras as he waded happily through the small but adoring throng at the anti-carbon tax rally in Canberra.

But then this I though they were just eastern state dole cheats getting government handouts. The mob who were ripping off the schools and pink batts programs. Honest people were at work.

Codswallop. It was a Wednesday morning. Middle Australia was hard at work around the nation trying to make a buck and pay the mortgage.

Gullible talk back cannon fodder love it

Most of those who had the time to be there for Abbott's so-called People's Revolt were gullible talkback radio cannon fodder, old and grey. They had been whipped to a lather and bussed to the capital at the urgings of a right-wing Sydney shock jock. Of which more below.

Mikes stealing my words now but that's OK

Then there were the

organised nutters

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of the extreme right. One Nation, the Citizens' Electoral Council and the anti-Semitic League of Rights all turned up, with a smattering of more shadowy conspiracy theorists.

People who you can really trust

One placard held directly behind Abbott's head read: ''UN IMF global government. Agenda 21 Genocide''. That, if you are wondering, is the cry of the fruit loops who believe the United Nations and the International Monetary Fund have hatched a fiendish scheme to abolish democratic nation states, and that the UN's Agenda 21 for sustainable world development is, yes, a plot to kill us all.

Oh dear this guy was running the show a flasher hilarious.

The shock jock behind this farce was one Chris Smith, a minor afternoon talk
presenter on 2GB, but a man best known in the media trade for his disgusting social habits. Hard to forget that sozzled lunch in the Channel Nine boardroom a decade or so ago, where Smith - then working for A Current Affair - unzipped his pants and produced his penis to some startled women guests.

But wait there is more

His big difficulty at Nine, though, came in 1994 when he was found guilty of forging a signature to have a prisoner released from the Mulawa Detention Centre for an interview. That got him a two-year good behaviour bond.

Like a set of streak knives there is still more what a dog.

A slow learner, in 2009 he was suspended by 2GB after he was outed as ''the mystery groper'' who had pawed three women at a station Christmas party. ''Alcohol issues,'' he explained later.

Yep just a snap shot of middle Australia in fact I think they should become your next door neighbors move them right on in LOL.

Thanks Mike love your work

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/good-riddance-to-the-rabble-of-fools-20110325-1c9ww.html

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