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Tony Abbotts comment about Treasury being unable to understand the coalition costings, in response to the independants request that both parties submit their costings to treasury, was yet another gaff.
What is he trying to hide?
Maybe Tony Abbott doesnt want to win government. It may be good politics on his part to let Gillard try and maintain a government with a minority and fail. I cant see him controling Katter, the new WA Nat or the new green MP let alone the senate. Maybe he will not be in control of his own party or the Nats.
IMO Tony doesn't appear to be trying to hide anything as the three independents are welcome to see his professionally prepared independent costings.
Abbott's knockers are conveniently leaving out the fact that someone from treasury apparently leaked the first costings and there were calls for the federal police to investigate. If so, it would seem reasonable and fair that Abbott doesn't trust treasury until this is sorted out.
I also think it is good to see one leader standing up for what they believe is right as opposed to the grovelling that appears to be going on in the other camp.
Totally agree - Abbott's quick backflip on his broadband policy contrats heavily with Gillard standing firm on the Mining TaxI also think it is good to see one leader standing up for what they believe is right as opposed to the grovelling that appears to be going on in the other camp.
And apparently the leak showed a bit of a hole!
Totally agree - Abbott's quick backflip on his broadband policy contrats heavily with Gillard standing firm on the Mining Tax:
So is it Treasury leaks or telling porkies?
The Coalition was sticking to it's estimates of cost savings from scrapping the NBN post the leak.So is it Treasury leaks or telling porkies?
The "less worse" leader is a better way of putting it IMONo worries, Mofra. We can agree to disagree on the better leader...
They'll both have to make some amendments - Rudd had too much of apersonal stake in Mining tax to make any concessions to at least someone "less bad" than Rudd has that flexibility.However, time will tell how much Gillard will have to water down her mining tax or Abbott will have to re-define broadband policy.
Only 4% of such projects worldwide (at least when I studied these sorts of things) came in on time and on budget. I'm just happy that there is one spark of grand planning for Australia amongst the sea of beige that otherwise characterises our representatives at the moment.I'm not against the NBN - just concerned at the present government's ability to manage anything let alone such a large and costly infrastructure. Personally, I would have more confidence in the coalition to perform proper costings and feasibiity studies prior to entering into such a scheme.
As much as I am keen for the NBN to go ahead - I don't have confidence either party has shown they can manage the project. Labor only have their current ineptitude to place on the table and I can't really think of any large public infrastructure projects the Liberals undertook during the Howard years (despite the economy awash with cash) that would allow them to claim any project management superiority. So the choices are tweedle dum or tweedle dee.I'm not against the NBN - just concerned at the present government's ability to manage anything let alone such a large and costly infrastructure. Personally, I would have more confidence in the coalition to perform proper costings and feasibiity studies prior to entering into such a scheme.
The "less worse" leader is a better way of putting it IMO
There are some smart cookies that have been hired by NBN Co at least so the delivery of the project should go a little better than anything rolled out by beaucracies alone.
As much as I am keen for the NBN to go ahead - I don't have confidence either party has shown they can manage the project. Labor only have their current ineptitude to place on the table and I can't really think of any large public infrastructure projects the Liberals undertook during the Howard years (despite the economy awash with cash) that would allow them to claim any project management superiority. So the choices are tweedle dum or tweedle dee.
Though that needs to be placed in the context that one had the fortuity to be at the helm during one of the largest booms on record and the other took over as we entered the largest crash since 1929. Surpluses and deficits would be expected in both cases. A monkey could have delivered a surplus during the resources boom.The difference I see is that one managed to provide a surplus while the other savaged it in a couple of years and now has this country paying heavily in interest.
Though that needs to be placed in the context that one had the fortuity to be at the helm during one of the largest booms on record and the other took over as we entered the largest crash since 1929. Surpluses and deficits would be expected in both cases. A monkey could have delivered a surplus during the resources boom.
Though that needs to be placed in the context that one had the fortuity to be at the helm during one of the largest booms on record and the other took over as we entered the largest crash since 1929. Surpluses and deficits would be expected in both cases. A monkey could have delivered a surplus during the resources boom.
I'm not saying that Labor are doing a good job or that I agree with their current policies - I don't. I was just putting into context the relative economic climates and how I do not think that it can be claimed that the current Liberal party, based on this, would be a better manager of infrastructure projects than the current Labor clowns.The Howard govt had their share of negative world events as well, but still managed to control Australia's finances in a positive manner.
And they ALLOWED the miners to remain profitable without taxing them into oblivion or pushing them to take their profits off shore. Huge difference in fiscal management IMO.
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