Well spoken GG. You are a man after my own heart living in the best place in Aus.
Where? Townsville of course.
No mate, what hurts us is that the Powerbrokers in the ALP are the Ruling Class and rule and become rich on the hopes and aspirations of good local ALP members.
As Kim Beasley Senior said on the decline of the ALP: "It turned its back on the cream of the working class in its rush to embrace the dregs of the middle class."
That was in the 70's and its now achieved it, a millionaire as PM and many in Cabinet in the monetary hold of the Chinese and Big Business.
Tony Abbott wouldn't tolerate that.
Its poor mugs like you who keep these silvertail ALP bosses in power, none of whom have ever done an honest days work in a proper job or run a business.
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People didn't vote for Kevin Rudd they voted Johnny out.
How long ago was a millionaire banker running your
mob?
Proper days work there all bloody lawyers spare me.
Besides industrial relations they have made no noticeable change either way to me.
The best part is how much it fires up the Libs supporters when not in office.
Thats a fair point Todster.
What is needed is more honesty in politics.
I hope you're not holding your breath, gg.What is needed is more honesty in politics.
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Noco, I doubt that Todster is deluded, any more than he/she is a committed Labor voter. He/she suggested that Mr Howard was voted out, rather than Mr Rudd actually being voted in.Rudd sucked in the naive like you mate with his lies, spin, broken promises and absolute inefficency in his hair brain schemes which you and I will be paying for years with increased taxes. Please don't elude yourself.
Yes, I agree Julia. No benefit at all. As Brumby states, it is just a recyle of the GST without any additional benefits of beds, doctors and nurses.
Brumby inherited a healthy hospital system from the previous Liberal Government and he realizes his 30% of the GST will go to the states most in need, or perhaps I should say the badly managed states who have hospital inefficencies.
Health has always been a State responsibility for years and the Labor states have not handled it very well at all.
Rudd said if the states did not get their act together by July1 2009, he would take them over fullstop. The buck was supposed to have stopped with him. He has gone to water knowing full well he does not have the confidence to impliment such a scheme. He can now leave the door open to blame someone else if his scheme fails.
Don't get me wrong, everybody wants health reform including me and that's why Rudd thinks he is on a winner. But can he do it without stuffing up like everything esle he has tried to do? As Brumby states, we can't wait untill 2014. He wants it now. Rudd will probably be out of office then. So what has got to loose?
I hope you're not holding your breath, gg.
Noco, I doubt that Todster is deluded, any more than he/she is a committed Labor voter. He/she suggested that Mr Howard was voted out, rather than Mr Rudd actually being voted in.
I agree.
Mr Howard had held on to power for about as long as it was reasonable to expect, and there's usually a mood for change after that many years.
Add to this the Libs' bad judgement in going too far with Work Choices, and I reckon that was all that was needed to tip previously loyal Lib voters over to vote ALP.
However, because of the growing realisation that Mr Rudd is more about spin than substance, the electorate is restless and nervous again. But Tony Abbott, with all his inconsistencies, and his tendency to run off at the mouth without thinking, isn't presenting a completely credible alternative.
Add to that, the considerable loss of talent from the Libs, most recently Malcolm Turnbull who was much liked by some voters. Nick Minchin also is a decided loss.
On the Rudd proposal re health, Mr Brumby's 7.30 Report interview was quite impressive this evening. Excellent to see someone so clearly standing up to Mr Rudd. As Mr Brumby said, Rudd is not offering any new money, and is simply expecting the States to relinquish a percentage of their GST revenue, so that Rudd can recycle it as Federal money. How does that benefit either the States or the health system?
The other point that Mr Brumby so correctly made is that the GST revenue to the States was agreed on the basis that the States abolished various State taxes. So would we now expect that with the loss of that GST revenue, some of these State taxes would be re-introduced?
Is there anyone who can actually see a benefit from the little we know of Rudd's health "reform"?
In your own words health is a state responsibility and you go on to say that Brumby inherited a healthy hospital system from previous liberal govt is that Jeff Kennett?
You can't have it both ways.
And you call me naive
Excuse my ignorance but being from another state maybe you could tell who was the healthy system inherited from and when?
I don't understand your quote "You can't have it both ways".
Jeff Kennett was the Liberal leader of the Victorian state Government and had the hospital system in good shape. I repeat HEALTH has always been a state responsibilty. Queensland and NSW are a complete shambles and this is what Brumby fears will happen to a portion of his 30% of the GST. Rudd will distribute it to the poorly managed states with Victoria receiving less than their share.
First you apologise for you poor English and now you are asking us to excuse your ignorance. With a little bit of study you could overcome both these handicaps.
The fact it seems to annoy you makes it no handicap to me
Apparently your main intention is to annoy those whom you regard as your class enemies.
I am only trying to help you. If you are still at school it is not too late to apply a little diligence. If not, you should regard every day as a learning opportunity and overcome your resentment of those who have done better than you by self-improvement.
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