Apart from the fact that we know it will be extremely expensive.There is no doubt that Abbott has to go. The next election may not end up being the walk in the park that everyone expected. The negative campaigning is fast losing its effectiveness and the Libs are going to have to have a good set of policies to take to the next election.
This is where Abbott becomes an even greater liability to the party. A few examples:-
i. He has promised in blood or some such other silly phrase that he will remove the carbon tax. It hasn't worked out as badly as voters feared and many will prefer to see it left alone rather than replaced with Abbott's "direct action plan", the consequences of which are unknown.
I agree, Ferret. But would the Libs be able to do this, given the way he did raise their stakes after the last election? I suppose, though, loyalty in politics is an alien concept. Certainly Labor have demonstrated it to be so. Abbott has never been leadership material imo.ii. He has made the ridiculous 6 month paid maternity leave plan one of his "core promises".
iii. He is promising to curtail the NBN, a long term investment in infrastructure that the majority of voters support.
Abbott is so tied to these stupid policies that the only way to change them is going to be to remove him.
Except that Costello has made it crystal clear that he is not interested. He is still nursing a grudge after John Howard failed to pass the leadership to him. In retrospect, what a massive mistake that was.If I was in the Liberal party hierarchy, I would be having secret talks with Peter Costello right now. I'd arrange a safe seat for him at the election and around the middle of next year I'd drop him in as a party leader outside of parliament. It worked well with Campbell Newman, why not again?
I've previously asked sails and Miss Hale, and will now ask you, if you are actually saying here that the research companies are not conducting genuinely objective polling?Indeed - after all, these polling companies are getting paid big money to produce results!
Isn't that much to be expected of a deputy leader? I'm not sure. Swan, as Deputy of Labor, only gets publicity in his role as Treasurer, not as deputy leader.Julie Bishop has issues getting her face on TV and your words in print publications. I expect a bit more of a deputy leader of the major party of the coalition. Barnaby manages it fine altough often not in glorious manner.
Even when he did appear, he was less than impressive.Andrew Robb has basically gone AWOL since returning for depression therapy to get his life back on track. A finance minister should be all over a number of issues in the last 6 months.
He's probably a nice bloke. That is not enough for a Shadow Treasurer. His interview on "The Insiders" on Sunday was just a joke. He came across as a clown.Joe Hockey is missing something. He may mean well. He needs to work with someone that is critical of his public media performances to add the extra little something needed.
Is the upper class thing really a problem? How about Menzies? Turnbull is also well spoken.Christopher Pyne does have the Alexander Downer about him (it along with Turnball's speaking style makes them all seem like they are above common folk.) He is a little bit smarter about what he says. If he were a little heavier, deeper voice and less upperclass in how he speaks he would get a far stronger following.
I've heard him briefly on the radio. Hard to believe he was ever considered a rising star.Is Peter Dutton still alive? He seems to have fallen off the radar.
Really? I couldn't think of anyone much less likely unless it was Bronwyn Bishop. Mirabella has her foot in her mouth almost as often as does Mr Abbott.Sophie Mirabella seems to want to be Tony's deputy.
Agree absolutely. He comes across as aware, competent and above all a decent human being.They need to role out Ian MacFarlane more. He can add a political slant to answers without looking like he is only there for the politics. You can get some get answers from him.
I hadn't noticed that about him. I find him knowledgeable, articulate and pretty sensible.George Brandis needs to work with someone good with PR. He annoys me on Q&A often as he has the superiority thing about him like a number of senior liberals
That sounds like a considerable improvement over the present, boofhead. Thanks for an interesting and thoughtful summary.How should Abbott be replaced? If George Brandis fixes up some of his public work then he leads, Malcolm Turnball as treasurer, Ian MacFarlane finance minister. The party leadership would need to work more cohesively and correctly - that is don't endlessly give incorrect responses for political points. Abbott can go back to health.
David @ 3-43pm...I'll tell you what is going on with Newspoll and no one in the media is prepared to print it. IMHO Cast your mind back to when Hartigan got the flick from News Ltd. Who replaced him and why. Kim Williams replaced Hartigan and he replaced him because Gillard threw a tantrum. Remember Milne. At that time the UK scandal had broken and Gillard had openly said Murdoch had questions to answer. Now, Murdoch has one foot in the grave, a once great newspaper man is now old and decrepit and had an idiotic son (James) running his UK business. So he poops his pants and replaces Hartigan with Williams who at the time ran Murdoch's Sky/Foxtel business in Australia. Who is Williams? Williams is the son in law of Gough Whitlam, say no more. Newpoll is the polling arm of News Ltd. Murdoch wants to keep his empire in tact. IMHO. It is pathetic. Hedley Thomas does not have a chance of exposing anything regarding this subject. Where do his articles appear, they are hidden in the bowels of the paper.
A pretty good assessment above, but I can't see Malcolm Turnbull aspiring to be anything other than leader.
If he replaced Joe Hockey as shadow treasurer and played more for the team, that alone would be a significant improvement.
Have you ever been involved in any marketing questionairres or survey groups? They select particular classes of people or "target audiences" under the guise that this is where the information that their client wants to hear will come from. It's easy to skew the answer to the same question by intereviewing a list of people on your database that you know will answer how you want it to. They get paid if the survey results are favourable; and their clients will come back for more.I've previously asked sails and Miss Hale, and will now ask you, if you are actually saying here that the research companies are not conducting genuinely objective polling?
That's quite an accusation. Their questions for every poll are on their website for all to see. How, exactly, do you suggest they are skewing results and on behalf of whom?
Have you ever been involved in any marketing questionairres or survey groups? They select particular classes of people or "target audiences" under the guise that this is where the information that their client wants to hear will come from. It's easy to skew the answer to the same question by intereviewing a list of people on your database that you know will answer how you want it to. They get paid if the survey results are favourable; and their clients will come back for more.
For the benefit of whom? The people who want the truth skewed, even if only by degrees at a time. Opinion polls can be, in some circumstances, as others have pointed out, notoriously far from the truth.
A pretty good assessment above, but I can't see Malcolm Turnbull aspiring to be anything other than leader.
If he replaced Joe Hockey as shadow treasurer and played more for the team, that alone would be a significant improvement.
It would be the death of any market research company not to be completely ethical in their method.And why would they want to skew the result in Labor's favour? To entice Gillard into an early election?:headshake
Could this link be the turning point Tony Abbott is looking for to turn things back in his favour?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...-gold-for-abbott/story-e6frg75f-1226506989163
On page 18 of the Sunday Mail
Isn't that par for the course? I'm surprised it is illegal.
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