This is a mobile optimized page that loads fast, if you want to load the real page, click this text.

Tony Abbott for PM

Jump to new
Quote of the day!

Chris Pyne " The Tony Abbott I Know is just last weekend a person who went out with his local fire brigade to do a controlled burn-off and spent Sunday leading a blind person to the end of his marathon"

Guys, Tony is a living Saint - we should just give him the Prime Ministership now!
 

Be fair now - if its OK to bring up 35 year old bull**** to deride him then surely its OK to bring up yesterdays truth to praise him.
 

the big gripe there is those companies arent funded by tax payer dollars unlike the ABC
 

Much as I would like to agree with you Smithy, I am getting more doubtful every day. David Marr on ABC Radio this morning uttered a truism:

No unpopular Prime Minister has ever been replaced by a more unpopular person.

If Abbott was popular he would be a shoe-in. As it is he is an albatross around the neck on the party, and sadly there appears to be no solution.

AS for "how well they articulate their case for government," I'm afraid they are very inarticulate.
 

the problem for Labor is that it doesnt matter, Qld and NSW state elections and the current price $1.19 for LNP victory suggest that no amount of federal promise programs will stop it..
 
I'm not sure why you think it's funny/odd/irrelevant to point out that Mr Abbott continues to contribute as a volunteer to the community. I'd like to know how many other politicians do this, especially someone whose working week must already be pretty damn long.

white_goodman said:
werent the 'independents' former nationals and/or at odds with the nationals/barnaby and co?
Click to expand...
Yes. They were never, ever going to form an association with the Coalition. They relished their chance at revenge.


Reluctantly agree.
 

Call me cynical. Do some work like that when you are unpopular and get your senior ministers to tell everyone. No self interest there. I find it very funny.
 

I think he can still turn this around but he needs to do less spin doctoring and try to show his true self.
I would sack the spin doctors and tell everyone that this is the "real Tony".

It will then be "real" Tony against "real" Julia.

(How did we end up like this?)
 
And why would Turnbull be more popular than Abbott by conservative voters? Do laborites just want Turnbull because there they can find more mud to throw than they can on Abbott? It must be frustrating for the mud throwers when the best they can find is something they have possibly cooked up when Abbott was a teenager.

It seems one thing labor do well and that is smear campaigns and personal attacks. They seem hopeless at discussing policy.


Read more:
Malcolm Turnbull the rain man who speaks with forked tongue./
 

If David Marr uttered it I'd question its veracity for a start. I think we have plumbed new depths in terms of popularity of leaders, with Gillard being extremely unpopular as well. 2PP is still showing the coalition ahead so Abbotts lack of popularity doesn't concern me that much. Especially as I have heard other comentators state that it's quite normal for an opposition leader to have a low popularity rating.
 


Since the allegations of Gillard and the AWU slush fund, it seems there has been an increasing push from the left on popularity contests for leaders.

This seems nothing more than an attempt to distract from the real issues of policy. We don't have presidential style elections here and, apart from the leader's own electorates, none of us actually get to vote for a leader directly. I have always voted on which side seems to give the best all round policy, not because of the popularity of a leader.

Why won't labor instead discuss the more important issues of policy? Instead they turn on these nasty character assassinations - and the best they can dig up on abbott is a teenager and a punch that no-one saw. This seems no more than the bully type tactics found in our schools today.

And there are far more serious issues raised on Michael Smith's site than a punch that no-one saw.
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/
 
I would like to think the electorate is a bit more mature than they are given credit for. I believe Labor are done, everyone other than union organisers are fed up with them.
John Howard was very unpopular prior to being elected, I am sure the press was giving him a beating over his time as treasurer in the Fraser Government.
Collin Barnett was extremely unpopular, prior to being voted in. Lets wait and see what happens in the W.A election, I think that will be a major indicator for Labor.

On a side note, how many on the forum have been involved in a 'news or fairfax' poll regarding the current political parties, leaders etc?
I feel left out because they've never rung me.LOL
 
sails said:
Why won't labor instead discuss the more important issues of policy?
Click to expand...
Well, they have come up with new policy on aged care, national dental plan, NDIS, Gonski-inspired education reforms plus they have belatedly sought 'expert advice' on protecting our borders.
So I don't think they can be accused of not discussing policy, just of apparently having no idea about how they are going to pay for all this wonderful stuff.

sptrawler said:
I would like to think the electorate is a bit more mature than they are given credit for. I believe Labor are done, everyone other than union organisers are fed up with them.
Click to expand...
We'll see. The trend is presently favouring them. Might mean nothing in the face of another stuff up.


On a side note, how many on the forum have been involved in a 'news or fairfax' poll regarding the current political parties, leaders etc?
I feel left out because they've never rung me.LOL
Click to expand...
I've been polled three times, always pre Qld elections but there have been federal questions as well.
It is good to get the opportunity to have one's say.
 
I think the article in this link is by Hedley Thomas (Michael Smith has the same article on his blog and says Hedley is the author). Comment on Bolt's Blog:

This editorial, written on Saturday, has caused a nuclear reaction in the Prime Minister’s office. It seems only Labor’s manure smells sweet.
Click to expand...

From the Australian: If only the walls could talk


And, I have never been been polled. Maybe they use the same people.
 
white_goodman said:
werent the 'independents' former nationals and/or at odds with the nationals/barnaby and co?
Click to expand...

Yes correct but the nats are pretty out there in those regions hence ripe for Liberals / independents the independents are still conservative just not right wing.
 
Compared to Labor, thay are very politically inarticulate, but then that hasn't mattered, until now.

They is also significant in the context of your point. Replacing TA with either MT or JH isn't the answer for the reasons I mentioned earlier, although MT acting as a team player would help somewhat I feel.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Menu
Log in
Register
Cookies are required to use this site. You must accept them to continue using the site. Learn more...