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Garpal Gumnut

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It's Time.

It should be soon.

On the NSW State Election votes Oakeshott and Windsor have lost all credibility in their electorates.

These two muppets, keep the ALP in power, with their ludicrous Carbon Tax and dubious, damaging Refugee Policy.

If they had any honour they would resign, and face the electorate.

gg
 

hear hear!!

the swings out there are very large, i guess peoples thoughts on the great carbon 'threat' are in aswell as the backing of federal labor

socialist agenda, NSW and Australia says NO!
 
The next federal election is not a question of the ALP winning it regardless of the outcome with the carbon tax.

It's only a question of whether the Coalition lose it.
 
I believe Juliar Gillard should now do the honourable thing and call a new election seeking a mandate for her carbon dioxide tax and let the voters decide. If she wins, then the electors will have to ware the extra cost of living, which I might add is already rising at an alarming rate.
If she loses, then she will have been punished for lying before the 2010 election.
I believe she will stall as long as she can, but I cannot see her lasting out this year.
 

She will refuse to call an early election.
She will have to be forced to do it!
What the trigger is for that early election, I do not know.
Maybe the media will come up with something in the next few days!

Cheers
 
The ALP under Juliar, Rudd the dudd, and bird brain Swan, are only concerned about keeping their voting demographic happy, which is traditionally lower income. In this regard they have never been a Gov't for the people of Australia, just their demographic and the unions.

They have used this approach disgustingly through money wastage on an unprecedented scale, all designed to transfer monies to their voting base, and stroke the unions.

That is why there will not be an early election - well at least not until after the carbon tax comes in. The reason is that the carbon tax is first and foremost, a wealth transfer tax from companies/buisineses to lower income families and individuals. Yes, stuff the consequences of policy decisions, just keep in power by feathering the nests of their voter base.

Secondly, the intention of the tax is to win back support that went over to the Greens.

AND, the tax is due to come in before the end of the parliamentary term, so that the big wealth transfers to their voting base will be very fresh in their minds.

The contempt the ALP has shown for the overall well being of this great country of ours is incredibly sad. The coalition will win the next election and we now know we will have the seats of Windsor and Oakshott. But in answer to this thread, it will not be an early election unfortunately.
 
joea said:
She will refuse to call an early election.
She will have to be forced to do it!
What the trigger is for that early election, I do not know.
Maybe the media will come up with something in the next few days!

Cheers
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It only needs Oakshot to defect and a new election must be called. If windsor defects with him then Abbott becomes Prime Minister.
A by-election would also be neccessary if Rudd quits to join the UN at the end of the year and that may also throw the cat among the pidgeons.
If Abbott became Prime Minister for what ever reason, he would then have to face a hostile Senate dominated by the Greens who will hold the balance of power. He would then have the power to call a double disolution if the Greens keep blocking legislation.
Interesting times ahead.
 
These next three months, with an election looming in Queensland, and then the Greens controlling the Senate, will prove to be, "interesting times" in which to live.

As Gillard took the leadership, so shall she lose it.

NSW Labor in Sussex St. will reassert itself, and oppose a Carbon tax within the ALP.

The Libs/Nats in WA, Victoria and NSW will wreck the next COAG meeting unless they can be recompensed for the effects of the Carbon tax on their states.

If Queensland falls to the LNP, there will be no choice but for Gillard to go to the people.

gg
 
Let's see, what a choice...

We have Labor sending the country broke and throwing away key industries.

Or we could try the Greens who are simply an even more extreme version of the above.

Or we could try the Liberals who will sell that even remotely looks like a community service or asset amidst a religious undertone to the whole thing.

If ever we needed a real alternative, someone who worships neither unions nor the Bible, it is now.

As for me, well there's no way I could vote Labor after recent goings on. If I wanted a Green government (which I don't, but that's not the point) then I'd vote for an actual Green, rather than the clayton's Greens that Labor choose to become whever it suits them. So that leaves Liberal as the only sensible choice, much as I despise some of their ideas they seem less bad than the alternatives.
 

Throw in the Abbott factor and i think i will wear the fine.
 
todster said:
Throw in the Abbott factor and i think i will wear the fine.
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Then again maybe i might get to see the new hall
Being an expert on the costs of school halls i should be able to relay the result to other ASf experts.
 

Can only hope you are right, GG. What happened to the scandal that was going to be let out after the NSW elections?
 
noco said:
It only needs Oakshot to defect and a new election must be called. If windsor defects with him then Abbott becomes Prime Minister.
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Oakshott won't defect. He's too happy where he is.

Windsor I would suggest now is in pre-retirement mode.
 
drsmith said:
Oakshott won't defect. He's too happy where he is.

Windsor I would suggest now is in pre-retirement mode.
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And I suppose Oakeshott could easily switch to labor if he wants to continue his political career. I doubt he would ever be trusted again as an independent especially in a conservative electorate.
 
noco said:
It only needs Oakshot to defect and a new election must be called.
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Why would he do that? His own electorate are so disgusted with him, he'd never be re-elected in a new election. Additionally, I don't believe Mr Oakeshott is sufficiently principled to do any such thing, unless he (very unlikely) has an attack of conscience for how he has forsaken his electorate's wishes.

If windsor defects with him then Abbott becomes Prime Minister.
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On principle, this is probably more likely imo. Tony Windsor doesn't care as much about the future because he has made it clear he will be retiring at the end of this term. So he could perhaps be more likely to throw a spanner in Labor's works if he genuinely believes they are not acting in the national interest.

It's only because of Mr Windsor that the Productivity Commission has now, very belatedly, become involved in the carbon tax issue. So far, their commentary is far from favourable to the government.

A by-election would also be neccessary if Rudd quits to join the UN at the end of the year and that may also throw the cat among the pidgeons.
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Interesting thought. And I reckon Mr Rudd is still (and understandably) so dirty towards his colleagues that if he did have the chance of a UN position , he wouldn't think twice about leaving the government in trouble. Might be very sweet revenge.



Garpal Gumnut said:
NSW Labor in Sussex St. will reassert itself, and oppose a Carbon tax within the ALP.

The Libs/Nats in WA, Victoria and NSW will wreck the next COAG meeting unless they can be recompensed for the effects of the Carbon tax on their states.
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Yes, Mr O'Farrell has made his opposition to the carbon tax very clear. Good for him. Colin Barnett is also opposed to pretty much everything the Feds suggest and will fight them hard on the mining tax in particular.

If Queensland falls to the LNP, there will be no choice but for Gillard to go to the people.
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Do you think so? Why? She doesn't need the agreement of the State leaders to get the legislation through federal parliament, does she?


I reckon much of the country feels the same way: disgusted with all the options so opting for the least worst.



sails said:
And I suppose Oakeshott could easily switch to labor if he wants to continue his political career. I doubt he would ever be trusted again as an independent especially in a conservative electorate.
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Agree. He is absolutely history as an independent and rightly so, two timer that he is. If I were in his electorate I'd be furious.
 
Julia said:
I reckon much of the country feels the same way: disgusted with all the options so opting for the least worst.
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Agreed. And that is why I DON'T want an election right now. I want labor gone, but the alternatives don't look any better. I am totally opposed to the greens policies and I don't think I could swallow Abbot as my PM.

Best thing would be if the libs quickly get a decent leader and then we can go to the polls.
 

Campbell Newmans popularity is doing the Qld LNP wonders.

Can he throw his hat into the ring for Fed leader of the Libs (Prime Minister in waiting) also, while he is waiting for LNP endorsement for Ashgrove so he can step into the leadership of the Qld LNP.
 
It's as dire as could be imagined for Federal Labor/Greens. In NSW the Greens and Indeps were directly repudiated. The fed indep NSW two amigos are gone-ski. Labor would not have Oakeschott, any more than they gave Cheryl Kernot a fair go.

Even in blue collar, unionized coal miner electorates (eg Hunter Valley), the Labor vote bypassed the Greens and went straight to Liberal/National. The Libs won one particular seat they haven't held since the 19th century, think about it.

Nobody wants the jobs export tax (some people know this as the carbon tax).

Barry O'Farrell will be a strong Premier, and will show Tony Abbott how it's done (no love lost between these two). With O'Farrell and Colin Barnett of WA at COAG - it's look out Feds.
 
Some scuttlebutt for folks in other states:

talk of pressure behind the scenes for Peter Garrett to step aside in the southern metrop seat of Kingsford, which includes Kristina Keneally's state seat, to allow her a safe passage into federal parliament.

All publicly denied of course, but the behind the scenes relationship between the two is described as 'tense'.

She will bail at the first opportunity. Two or three terms in state opposition is not her speed. This is an ambitious woman in a hurry.

But the claws of the sisterhood are starting to come out. Columnist Claire Harvey, in the Sunday Telegraph, 27 March, Giving 'chick' the flick' said:
"Keneally sighed, rolled her eyes, huffed and frowned through the interview. It was like talking to a teenager who had been dragged out of her bedroom to meet the booooring heighbours"
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Logique said:
Barry O'Farrell will be a strong Premier, and will show Tony Abbott how it's done (no love lost between these two).
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This was evident after the post election victory speech when Tony Abbott offered Barry O'Farrell his congratulations, Barry O'Farrell barely gave Tony Abbott a second glance before moving to the next person.

It was very apparent that Mr O'Farrell wants to maintain a healthy distance from Tony Abbott. Good letter to the editor on the differences in todays Sydney Morning Herald.
 
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