DeepState
Multi-Strategy, Quant and Fundamental
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do you mean no "upside"?Duration looks a really really bad bet with virtually no downside in many markets. Amazing.
do you mean no "upside"?
And just for a complete novice trying to understand very unfamiliar concept
"Duration"-> aka the fact of holding onto an asset be it equity, bond, TD, gold?
In essence, a buy and hold for any asset becomes too risky vs the reward potential it might bring?
Sorry for the focus on duration,I understand this is just one risk factor among others but I got troubled by your sentence
Many thanks anyway to take the time to teach that view
The key thing here is that investment is about buying cheap stuff. The innovation here is that this stuff is not just an asset, but an exposure to a kind of risk that looks like it has a reward in it. When the rewards to buy and hold appear much diminished, I feel compelled to look at alternatives.
If someone was to start now (like me), have we missed the boat? Has the opportunity vanished?I think, for example, the return to carry might re-assert in currency if cross border finance re-emerges as a phenomenon. Duration looks a really really bad bet with virtually no downside in many markets. Amazing. Equities won't give you the real returns that were once expected. May be this is as good as is possible to obtain and we need to adjust our expectations down. Maybe not.
okDuration is thus to do with the time frame over which coupons and capital will be returned and nothing to do with holding period (which can be fractions of a second).
about 40% is still in cash. Why do I feel some hesitation to spend more? I haven't even looked into EFTs yet. Gut feeling tells me to wait (beginner's gut feeling.) I see in one of the pie charts, "Term" is nearly one third of the pie.
If someone was to start now (like me), have we missed the boat? Has the opportunity vanished?
ok
5y/10/20y bond and the expected premium due to risk taken irrelevant to the fact you can sell/buy them in a few days if you wish to.
Got that one. thanks so this is specific to bond (corporate/state)
and one more point of vclarity:
EM equities is cheap relative to DM equities at present.
EM vs DM
I initially thought European Market vs ..hum D for Deutsch?? but that was too euro centric based on my background and made no sense related to your graph
EM as emerging market is more like it but vs DM??not an acronym I know to mean first world/aka developed market
and bingo Developed market with a bit of google help
so
unless wrong and to help other beginners
EM emerging market vs DM developed market
The discount existing between is one of the reason i actually have a reasonably big exposure to the EM in my current portfolio
You can estimate the duration for equities too, but equities are rarely assessed with this concept in mind.
(My bold above)Duration (as in interest rate sensitivity) is very important for long term equity selection, especially at the moment with interest rates so low. High duration stocks (little pricing power, big current asset bases) – banks spring to mind - seem overpriced too me unless interest rates don’t move up for a long time. Duration margin seems negative in the equities market to me at the moment. However some of the lower duration stocks are much more attractive from a long term perspective. One of the few opportunities left in this time of financial suppression.
Basically the negative duration premium in equities makes the yield chase occurring now dangerous but still leaves opportunities for buying long term growth at a reasonable price.
This is the kind of development which tells me carry is probably making a come-back in FFX. ....
And how do you play that game, instead of euro/japanese borrowing in USD, the opposite happens with raising rate in the US expected earlier than the rise elsewhereFOMC Flow of Funds report for Q4 2014 confirms:
PS: being in Australia, apart from these worl wide trends which obviously impact us, do you sometimes try to use some of the local trends for investing decision?
By that I mean, I have a groundhog day feeling here of a society going thru all what I experienced in the 90's in western europe, in term of immigration, economy,sense of entitlement, politics etc and the sad future here is pretty easy to draw based on this experience.Any meaningful way to leverage that "knowledge" on an investment scale?
And how do you play that game, instead of euro/japanese borrowing in USD, the opposite happens with raising rate in the US expected earlier than the rise elsewhere
so
USD climb vs euro/yen?
And so expect AUD to carry on its descent? (no not that carry game)
I noticed this morning the AUD was up 1.5 % (6AM or so on yahoo finance probably last trading values) then when I last checked a few min ago was going down again.
After this morning checked i bought a few USD but had to race to get it as it was climbing again.
So yes how do you get in? do you purchase debt in japan/euro , invest in the US?
not that easy to do as a retail investor
or justplay forex with that in mind, knowing any little phrase of teh feb will have teh exchange rate jump right and left
Anyway, enough question from the ignorant pupil
Deepstate, for your equity portion of your portfolio, why would you not just buy EU equities given that the last two examples of QE bond buying resulting in equity bull markets?
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