Sadly, Islam has won.
I strongly disagree:
It's not "Islam" that has committed these atrocities, but a bunch of extremist nutters.
And they will only have "won" if we let them dictate how we react to their evil ideology, which may be based on an interpretation of parts of the Qur'an, but is definitely not shared by "all Muslims".
I think you'll find that a very large % of muslims would support laws that prohibited the kinds of cartoons that the French magazine published.
TODAY is a dark day for Europe. The barbaric assault on the offices of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo is an attack most immediately on the journalists and cartoonists who worked there, 12 of whom are dead, executed in cold blood for the ‘crime’ of saying what they think. But this horrific act was also an attack on Europe itself, on all of us, on our fundamental right to freedom of thought and speech. None of us can feel the pain currently being felt by the friends and families of the murdered journalists and illustrators - but all of us should feel assaulted by this massacre, for it is designed to chill us and make us cower, to make us censor ourselves or else suffer the consequences
Enough. The Paris massacre shows us the terrible dangers of this new Endarkenment, this retreat from freedom of thought and speech and this unleashing of a new, seemingly PC intolerance. The best, most civilised response to this barbaric act is to promise that we will defend freedom of speech every time it is threatened, stop kowtowing to the offended, and stand up to every mob, campaign group, thug and gunman that think they have the right to silence others. That’s what spiked plans to do - to embolden even further our fight for the right to be offensive, in memory of the journalists at Charlie Hebdo and in the name of freedom and Enlightenment.
Maybe a large % of Christians would want the same, as that magazine lampooned all religion not just Islam, but they have to learn that the same system that supports freedom of religion also supports freedom of speech. One without the other is not acceptable.
I strongly disagree:
It's not "Islam" that has committed these atrocities, but a bunch of extremist nutters.
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you can't have one without the other. If you raise millions of children with the belief that a certain book is the word of god, a certain percentage always going to take it literally.
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This is just BS false equivalence. "oh but the the christians"
The Crown last laid a charge of blasphemous libel in 1919. The case concerned socialist journalist Robert Samuel Ross, who had published a satirical piece in which Bolsheviks ransack heaven. The prosecutor dropped the charge but proceeded on a charge of sending blasphemous materials through the mail. The Court convicted Ross, and sentenced him to six months of hard labour.[2]
A central tenet of islam is taking the Koran literally.
It's not "Islam" that has committed these atrocities, but a bunch of extremist nutters.
.The CIA estimates that ISIS has a fighting strength of 20,000 ”” at minimum. The high-end estimate is 31,500
This is just BS false equivalence. "oh but the the christians"
Are you still going on with this PC garbage, VC.
Pity you didn't take in all of my post.
If you are trying to argue that the average Christian in the West has similar views to the average muslim on whether satire dealing with religion should be prohibited/punished you are either being disingenuous or you are a fool.
Islam inspired violence seems the most appropriate description for current events though even this will likely be criticized by the apologists for religion here. It's all too convenient to excuse the Islamic faith from any blame for the actions of "criminal extremists" who presumably misinterpret this so called religion of peace. I would argue that the "nutters" are simply literalists who take their faith to seriously.That seems to be the popular excuse. It was also used in the Sydney seige. It is bullsh!t. It is well oganised.
Maybe a large % of Christians would want the same, as that magazine lampooned all religion not just Islam, but they have to learn that the same system that supports freedom of religion also supports freedom of speech. One without the other is not acceptable.
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