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Why doesn't your beloved LNP fix it?...
Of course it's the Coalition's to lose. Labor can't win on merit and all the Abbott Abbott Abbott noise in the world won't change that.I think he has been generally sensible certainly the stand-out State Premier in Australia presently and he has done it on his own, there is no one else in the lower house worth talking about other than the chair sniffer.
Rather the opposite actually quite up beat I still think the election is the Coalitions to lose and with Abbott there is ever chance that could happen.
If not then Abbott will not get the massive mandate and absolutely wont get the senate.
I don't think Labor will get pounded simply because Australia will not trust Abbott.
I just don't understand why you guys keep moaning about what the libs did when labor isn't fixing the things which you are moaning about. It makes a mockery of your complaints!
As for WA Labor, they like their federal Labor counterparts have allready sunk to making vast unfunded promises.
James Price Point was covered extensively in the following episode of Q&A.What do think about the floating l.n.g plant, Bob Brown and his moron mates screaming for it to be moved south.
Well it looks like they've achieved getting it moved offshore.
Great lose, lose result. Now the great gormeless goose is off on another crusade, life wasn't meant to be easy.
Firstly, they are not my beloved LNP, they just give an alternative to the most woeful government I have ever witnessed.
And, in case you hadn't noticed, labor have been the ones in power for FIVE years and almost TWO of those they have had a co-operative senate. They could fix this if they wanted.
I just don't understand why you guys keep moaning about what the libs did when labor isn't fixing the things which you are moaning about. It makes a mockery of your complaints!
The performance of the current government is so poor that they don't have to say anything.Can i ask what has Tony or his front bench said so far that makes you believe they will be any better than the current mob we have in power??
As for WA Labor, they like their federal Labor counterparts have allready sunk to making vast unfunded promises.
Is it now Labor policy to abandon any foreshore development and if so, to what extent could they undo existing contracts ?The rail idea is well over due, killing the foreshore development would go some way to paying for the rail which would make more sense more roads wont change a whole lot but rail will.
Aren't you avoiding the point that Sails made?Do you really think the greens and independents would support labor if they really cut, and by really I mean like $10B cut middle class welfare? I seriously doubt it.
Is it now Labor policy to abandon any foreshore development and if so, to what extent could they undo existing contracts ?
They would have to cancel much more than that to pay for that level of rail development. as for being overdue, it looks a lot like overkill and would cost how much ?
They would also have to scrap road projects, goodness knows what else and raise taxes. They might even be silly enough to have a second crack at that premium property tax.
This is what they had planned for the foreshore when they were last in office.
It was my thinking not State Labors
The Mandurah line was criticized as over kill by the Liberals how did that go?
As for promises remember Barnets pipe line?
I think IF was referring to his covered canal. That wasn't one of his better ideas and he lost an election because of it.As for the pipeline, it is the smartest piece of infrastructure that could be built and I'm sure James Point is a key component.
TBH the only way I see a winding back of the nanny state is a good recession. Seems that is the only way to push through with the reforms required. Just a shame we will have to destroy so many lives to do it. personally I'd prefer to see less populism and more rational debate over economic policy, but it ain't gonna happen in my life time.
Can i ask what has Tony or his front bench said so far that makes you believe they will be any better than the current mob we have in power?? There's still a huge policy vacuum for both sides for the current election.
theres a policy vacuum and a vacuum on philosophical debates on the role and objectives of govt... its 24hr news cycle and 2 worded slogans... I hope people realise we are paying for these idiots (much higher to their counterparts overseas)
moving forward
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But there is also another tendency that is common among people. When they can, they wish to live and prosper at the expense of others....
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When, then, does plunder stop? It stops when it becomes more painful and more dangerous than labor.
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