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The Voice is not a movement. It's a body that is proposed to represent first nations peoples. Maybe when there are none left in thousands of years time there can be another Constitutional change.

Your further points fail basic logic as you are again using a false equivalence.

What is your explanation for "advice" - the only power of the Voice - being the problems you describe? You and others keep drawing irrelevant inferences based on non-existent features.

The government has explained the features of the Voice which are being proposed to make it effective. The government cannot guarantee what can only be left to Parliament decide in terms its ultimate operational mechanics.
Put simply, the Voice is given an opportunity to present advice to government and, quite separately, Parliament will always decide on the machinery that can give it effect. Thus, in simple terms any government can choose to neuter the Voice's effectiveness for whatever reason they choose by removing the machinery it formerly provided. Concerns about the Voice being self serving are baseless.

<blockquote data-quote="rederob" data-source="post: 1233891" data-attributes="member: 2837">The Voice is not a movement.&nbsp; It&#039;s a body that is proposed to represent first nations peoples.&nbsp; Maybe when there are none left in thousands of years time there can be another Constitutional change.Your further points fail basic logic as you are again using a false equivalence.What is your explanation for &quot;advice&quot; - the only power of the Voice - being the problems you describe?&nbsp; You and others keep drawing irrelevant inferences based on non-existent features.The government has explained the features of the Voice which are being proposed to make it effective.&nbsp; The government cannot guarantee what can only be left to Parliament decide in terms its ultimate operational mechanics. Put simply, the Voice is given an opportunity to present advice to government and, quite separately, Parliament will always decide on the machinery that can give it effect.&nbsp; Thus, in simple terms any government can choose to neuter the Voice&#039;s effectiveness for whatever reason they choose by removing the machinery it formerly provided.&nbsp; Concerns about the Voice being self serving are baseless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rederob, post: 1233891, member: 2837"] The Voice is not a movement. It's a body that is proposed to represent first nations peoples. Maybe when there are none left in thousands of years time there can be another Constitutional change. Your further points fail basic logic as you are again using a false equivalence. What is your explanation for "advice" - the only power of the Voice - being the problems you describe? You and others keep drawing irrelevant inferences based on non-existent features. The government [B]has [/B]explained the features of the Voice which are being proposed to make it effective. The government cannot guarantee what can only be left to Parliament decide in terms its ultimate operational mechanics. Put simply, the Voice is given an opportunity to present advice to government and, quite [B]separately[/B], Parliament will always decide on the machinery that can give it effect. Thus, in simple terms any government can choose to neuter the Voice's effectiveness for whatever reason they choose by removing the machinery it formerly provided. Concerns about the Voice being self serving are baseless. [/QUOTE]

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