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More distraction.Have they taken a vote of their members ?
We only get the opinions of the hierarchy who like virtue signalling for commercial reasons.
More distraction.
Do you not understand how the agenda has been hijacked by people like you who refuse to understand what the referendum aims to achieve so have to find excuses for their voting intentions that are irrelevant?
That sums up you inability to understand the referendum question.Why would Aboriginal people need special treatment in the Constitution unless they were inferior in some way ?
And your answer sums up your inability to comprehend a simple question, and a total inability to answer it.That sums up you inability to understand the referendum question.
Not a word made sense.
Someone previously made a point that there weren't any elders that were against the voice. Signatories signed on behalf of the elders because their names were printed on the statement, which was obviously against their will and false, is the way I see it.It was signed by 300 of the same people who came up with Statement on behalf the rest of the mob who didn't get a look in. Caesar judging Caesar media driven event.
Exactly. It's the "soft racism of low expectations".Well I'll just put this to you before I start ignoring your irrelevancies.
Why would Aboriginal people need special treatment in the Constitution unless they were inferior in some way ?
Do you think they are ?
No it's not. It's simply a plan to allow people the rights to representation that every citizen including indigenous already have.
And it will be entrenched in the Constitution for one group only.
By all means let anyone form a representative body, but its success should depend on results not be just a sinecure for some Canberra based bureaucrats.
Disturbing.This is probably more properly something for the western Australia thread because it is Western Australian legislation.
However, it really does highlight two things.
1/ Just how much can be achieved by statutory legislation (without general consent by the way).
2/ just where a constitutional change could eventually end up.
As an owner of a small holding in the Swan Valley (5.6 acres), as July 1st, I will no longer be able to disturb the soil at a greater depth then 50cm.
This means that if I want to plant a reasonably sized sapling tree, dig a post hole, do any sort of levelling work, make a water jump for training eventing horses, repair my driveway etc etc, I will have to employ an Aboriginal consultant, under penalty of potentially tens of thousands of dollars and jail time.
It could even extend to something like pushing over a tree or even driving a steel picket in the ground.
Cashman's views seem pretty close to the money.
Disturbing.
The Uluru statement was falsely signed by elders that never even signed it and the other half didn't know what they signed. Anyone that stands up to the yes mob gets verbally or physically assaulted like Jancida Price's grandmother, I've seen all the removed social media posts.
Australians have every bit to be alarmed at passing a referendum that they don't understand the full consequences of.
Numerous signatories of the Uluru Statement from the Heart were ‘surprised’ to see their names on the document that calls for an indigenous voice to parliament and ‘unhappy’ to be seen as endorsing the statement. In a trip to Uluru last week, Liberal senator and indigenous woman, Kerrynne Liddle, was told by numerous Central Australian indigenous leaders that the Uluru Statement from the Heart and the Voice to parliament that it called for were causing nothing but “trouble”.
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Your question has nothing to do with the referendum question, apart from raising issues that again are irrelevant and nonsensical.And your answer sums up your inability to comprehend a simple question, and a total inability to answer it.
From the outset Andersons claims are BS as the Voice would sit outside Parliament.
Treaty eventually needs to come. Aboriginals can't just be left out on the fringes being thrown scraps.
I think the way the Voice has been presented has failed everyone.
It being enshrined in the constitution wasn't the only option.
The Fact is, no one trusts white progressives due to their track record. It's abysmal. It's often a partial truth that ignores the bigger reality.
They need to be very clear about outcomes. This whole thing is not about aboriginals as a whole. But about another layer of political wankery being installed.
That's interesting 50cm is a weird depth, a fence strainer post goes in deeper than that, so does that mean that fencing contractors will have to employ an aboriginal consultant.This is probably more properly something for the western Australia thread because it is Western Australian legislation.
However, it really does highlight two things.
1/ Just how much can be achieved by statutory legislation (without general consent by the way).
2/ just where a constitutional change could eventually end up.
As an owner of a small holding in the Swan Valley (5.6 acres), as July 1st, I will no longer be able to disturb the soil at a greater depth then 50cm.
This means that if I want to plant a reasonably sized sapling tree, dig a post hole, do any sort of levelling work, make a water jump for training eventing horses, repair my driveway etc etc, I will have to employ an Aboriginal consultant, under penalty of potentially tens of thousands of dollars and jail time.
It could even extend to something like pushing over a tree or even driving a steel picket in the ground.
Cashman's views seem pretty close to the money.
A quick google on the phone brought this up, check it out and see if it fits the bill. No pun intended.Well, any fence post is usually minimum 60cm, so...hmmm
It's exactly what they said it is, everything to do with 'the voice' is still under the scrutiny of the Indigenous affairs minister, even other Indigenous delegates that oppose the Ularu statement will still be heard by the indigenous affairs minister, and their voice will hold just as much weight as any representative of the Ularu statement, and Linda Burney said this herself.Fact is that is exactly what will happen a treaty has no hope ever.
Actually it is about recognizing Aboriginals and have them as part of a process but reading here apparently its all about subterfuge ?
The Voice is not a product of progressives it’s actually from a large cross group in fact not aware of any so called progressives
Well, any fence post is usually minimum 60cm, so...hmmm
Treaty will come.Fact is that is exactly what will happen a treaty has no hope ever.
Actually it is about recognizing Aboriginals and have them as part of a process but reading here apparently its all about subterfuge ?
The Voice is not a product of progressives it’s actually from a large cross group in fact not aware of any so called progressives
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