wayneL
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The objective of terrorism is to inject constant fear into the lives of a population.
Mission accomplished.
The only thing I'm wondering, is who are the terrorists? A few malcontents hiding in caves or our western governments and mainstream media?
Someone made this observation:
Real terrorism is played down by governments.
False terrorism is played up by governments.
I wonder.
Missed the point.i don't see any evidence of changes moving society towards fulfilling the "terrorists" goals. sure we have tighter security and some restricted liberties, but that doesn't go far towards building an islamic state. all it really does is piss people off and make them dislike muslims more than they already do.
Benjamin Franklin said:Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.
The fact remains that the legislation is in place and the potential still remains.Talk about instilling fear.....
I remember when this new "anti-terror" legislation was introduced ,the scaremongers amongst us were up in arms protesting how dangerous it would be.
I remember the scaremongers saying that a suspect could be arrested under this legislation and "disappear". The suspect would not be able to contact anyone to advise his/her status and nobody was allowed to discuss the situation. People could be arrested and the world would not know what was going on.
Well, let me say the whole world knew what this man was going through.
Everybody knew where he was and his safety and well being was assured through this unpleasant ordeal.
The objective of terrorism is to inject constant fear into the lives of a population.
Mission accomplished.
The only thing I'm wondering, is who are the terrorists? A few malcontents hiding in caves or our western governments and mainstream media?
Someone made this observation:
Real terrorism is played down by governments.
False terrorism is played up by governments.
I wonder.
Your argument is speculation backed up by a single example. For all you and I know, there could be another 100 locked away that we've never heard about. We have no idea as to what is actually going on - and that's the greatest danger.Well, let me say the whole world knew what this man was going through.
Everybody knew where he was and his safety and well being was assured through this unpleasant ordeal.
no, the object of terrorism is to effect change by injecting constant fear into the lives of the population. it is pointless creating terror for terrors sake, it is a method for enforcing your ideals on others.
i don't see any evidence of changes moving society towards fulfilling the "terrorists" goals. sure we have tighter security and some restricted liberties, but that doesn't go far towards building an islamic state. all it really does is piss people off and make them dislike muslims more than they already do.
i don't see much evidence that the population is scared. just because the government and media ramp it up doesn't mean people are paying attention to it. many people don't trust the government, while many others are either too stupid or too self-absorbed to notice what is going on anyway
dramatic forum posts aside, the terrorists have not won, they haven't created a culture of fear despite the blatherings of zero iq tv and they certainly haven't accomplished anything resembling a mission.
so who are the terrorists? they are islamic fundamentalists who wish to bring in sharia law and extend the historic islamic caliphate. do they have any chance of effecting this in australia? none whatsoever.
another thing is the monocultural viewpoint taken by both sides of the "terrorist" campaign. its the same with aborigines. it's always culture A vs. white people, or religion B vs. christianity and this is far too narrow. australia has a huge asian population who seem to be conveniently left out of the ramblings of both left and right of the political and religious equation. definately a silent section of the population there, putting their heads down and working hard to make things happen.
anyone with any sense already knows governments and the media cannot be trusted, and their purpose is to push their own agendas and maintain some level of control over society. the sheeple will always be led, so make sure you and yours think for themselves and forge their own path wherever possible.
well the Anglos and the Celcs have been bashing each other over the head for years, lol, so yes after a while you get used to it I guessWhatever happened to the stoic Anglo-Celtic tradition, the Blitz Spirit, the iron resolve,.... a few radicals who are statistically far less dangerous than the local hoodlums......
MW always reminds me of that song "who takes care of the caretaker's daughter while the caretaker's busy taking care"btw if you want exposure of the the bias of the press, no better place than "Media watch" - best damned show on TV
Missed the point.
When you consider the government and media are more responsible for the promulgation of fear than a few Muslim malcontents, then it is the gu'mint and the media who are the actual terrorists. This being the case, there is massive evidence that "terrorist goals" are indeed being achieved. eg The restriction of civil liberties which you mention.
No they're not scared of the government, that's not their goal at this stage. But they are trying to make people unreasonably frightened of a terrorist threat, a threat that is blown out of all proportion to the actual risks in order to implement a different agenda.i understand you are saying that the government are terrorists because they are pushing the fear. i am saying that people aren't scared of the government.
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