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The single, most important thing you've learnt as a trader

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swm79 said:
its almost as though someone is trying to obtain info so as to include it in a presentation at a seminar.... hmmm would there be money made by the operator of this seminar using information posted here??
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Are you for real? What would you think Kam would have to gain by using anything in that list for a seminar?! Seriously, there are no great secrets or revelations in that list - nothing that you wouldn't read in any decent book on trading. I've heard all those points many, many, times before in countless trading books! Why would he need to ask for this info on here, when he could just open any trading book and copy that instead? I'd be very surprised if any of those points were new to any experienced trader, and if Kam didn't already know all those points in that list, then IMO he shouldn't be in the business, and probably shouldn't be trading. I just find the whole idea of a supposed 'experienced trader' needing to resort to an internet forum for ideas for an upcoming seminar quite absurd - I guess it's possible, but seems highly unlikely to me.
 

AlterEgo, I have been burnt in my early trading years by what I consider to be questionable seminar spruikers. They don't have to have any creditentials - just a good presentation style and slick marketing usually does the trick. Very rarely will they show trading statements to prove their experience or profitability - so there is no proof of any background at all.

They can take lists such as the one you mention and present it as a survey from successful traders (successful or not is irrelevant to some spruikers). Whatever it takes to get people to buy their seminars.

Why wouldn't he just copy from books - perhaps copyright could be an inhibiting factor. But much more impressive when he could potentially throw up powerpoint slides as a survey from "successful" traders. While Kam may well be a honest person with a lot of experience in trading, we don't know that. Goodness, we don't even know if he actually trades, don't know his actual experience, etc.

Some time ago, I knew of someone who had no prior trading knowledge or experience - but what he did have was an excellent teaching / presentation abilities. He was employed by a spruiker to simply present the material - and paid well. The job didn't last for too long - the business was managing other people's money on the side and I believe they lost the lot which shut them down.

So yes, it can and does happen - that's why some of us are not comfortable with what has come to light in this thread.
 

Yes, I understand where you’re coming from. There’s plenty of those types around, so people shouldn’t put too much value on what anyone has to say unless they know the speaker is legitimate.

sails said:
They can take lists such as the one you mention and present it as a survey from successful traders (successful or not is irrelevant to some spruikers). Whatever it takes to get people to buy their seminars.
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Yes, or if he was so inclined he could just make up some list off the top of his head and say it’s a survey from successful traders – my point is that he wouldn’t need this list on here to do what you are saying. You act like he may ‘steal’ these ideas, but these ideas are common knowledge, they don’t belong to anyone.


sails said:
So yes, it can and does happen - that's why some of us are not comfortable with what has come to light in this thread.
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And what exactly has some to light? That Kam holds investment seminars? So what? Does anyone really care what he does in his spare time? I can’t see what business it is of ours. Has any evidence of wrong doing come to light on this thread? If you have evidence that he’s doing something illegal, then present it to the appropriate authorities.
 
lol alterego, if you cant see what he is doing, maybe you should be signing up for his seminars, sure you would get a lot from it. no offence to you, but open your eyes
 

I don't think you read my post - below is an excerpt:

sails said:
..While Kam may well be a honest person with a lot of experience in trading, we don't know that. Goodness, we don't even know if he actually trades, don't know his actual experience, etc.
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Real1ty said:
Username: AlterEgo sticking up for another poster.

Am i the only one that finds this suss?
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Geeez, get f***ing real! You guys are always so quick to judge people! I'm not sticking up for him! I don't know him and have no connection to him. I have no interest in going to one of his seminars - would most likely be a complete waste of my time, not to mention money. I'm just trying to bring some balance to this thread. You guys seem to be acting like a lynch mob, always quick to make acusations, without any evidence!
 
Real1ty said:
Username: AlterEgo sticking up for another poster.

Am i the only one that finds this suss?
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I stuck up for Kam too. Nothing suss, I assure you!

I understand all of your concerns but I can't see how in any way the guy was being dishonest or deceptive. His link to his business in his signature.

Anyone running a newsletter/seminar/software/whatever business can view the forum, without even joining, and take whatever is on here.

 
AlterEgo said:
Seriously, there are no great secrets or revelations in that list - nothing that you wouldn't read in any decent book on trading. I've heard all those points many, many, times before in countless trading books!
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I almost have to agree with AlterEgo here too. The only thing I would change is (my changes in bold):

Seriously, there are no great secrets or revelations in that list - nothing that you wouldn't read in any crap book on trading. I've heard all those points many, many, times before in countless crappy trading books!



(Oh, except for my piece of advice, which is of unsurpassed brilliance and erudition
And ps. I ripped my piece of advice off from Wayne)
 

No probs and i have made no accusations about Kam in this thread or any other (I couldn't care less to be honest)

I just thought it seems suss that a poster with that username would be sticking up for another.

No offense intended to AlterEgo
 
HAHAH ahah ah aha ha a h hehhe ehe he (insert maniacal laugh here) .... WOW ... talk about the chip and seagull syndrome. Poor guy will be lucky to get out alive. Tough crowd. From what I have read what Kam has written and if you guys want to take his advice .... knock yourself out. This is a public forum and I am sure either Joe Blow or the mod squad will be able to tell if he is phishing or not.
 
Wow lots of discussion and haters of each other on this thread...

Most important tip i have learnt .. If you are going to copy anyones trades or look at what other people on this forum are doing then make sure its YOUNG TRADER ...




Have to agree with the others I hate seeing unlicenced spruikers.. apparently teaaching others.. This occurs in my indusrty which is property... and I hate it with avengence.. Property Secrets my Ass !
 
adobee said:
Wow lots of discussion and haters of each other on this thread...
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Just for the record, I don't hate anyone on this thread.

Sincerely.

Don't know why you would say that?
 
AlterEgo said:
I just find the whole idea of a supposed 'experienced trader' needing to resort to an internet forum for ideas for an upcoming seminar quite absurd - I guess it's possible, but seems highly unlikely to me.
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Well you could spin it in different way's
ie
" after consulting with over a 1000 traders my research found that....blah blah blah"
(I can't remember how many members ASF has)
 

Patience, discipline and how to accept and manage the feeling of loss
 
Don't do what 90%+ of traders are doing, think outside the square, ditch 'market wisdoms' that the crowd follow.

brty
 
loves everyone here

even tech/a


i actually thought it was a good thread with some good input ( especially mine)

i have read Kams posts here at ASF . cant say his posts inspire me in any way, but i havent seen him trying to flog me anything either .....

in fact after reading the discussion again here i am finding quite a few hypocritical posts actually regarding "opinions" , but hey i have matured over the weekend and now no longer here to point out the sizes of ppls heads etcetc

Dear kam . are you also available for other functions ? we would be happy to hear you speak just as long as you have no problems with basting our sheep on the spit every 30 minutes while you are there.

all jokes aside

was a good thread with some good straight to the point input up until it became otherwise
 
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