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Came across this fledging "New Liberals" Party which is attempting to attract the centre of Australian politics.

Some noteworthy policy ideas IMV particularly on Climate Change action and National development.

Their first big bang however seems to be a decision by the Party Leader Victor Kline to mount a private prosecution of Christian Porter for the rape of Katherine Thorton in 1988.

Victor Kline | TNL

www.thenewliberals.net.au www.thenewliberals.net.au

Why We Are Different | TNL

www.thenewliberals.net.au www.thenewliberals.net.au


Christian Porter will be charged with rape in the not too distant future by an experienced legal team that has been assembled to institute a private prosecution. The legal team was announced today as “Experienced criminal barrister Mark Higgins will be the lead prosecutor. Vania Holt, assisted by Eric Zhang, will be the solicitors and former senior sex crimes detective Susan Campbell will be our investigator”.

The team has been assembled by Victor Kline who is a barrister and leader of the new political party The New Liberals. Mr Kline first announced that he intended to go after Porter in court when he put the below message on Twitter on Sunday (27/6/21):
 
For interest.

It would have been good if someone grammar checked the opening page :(

 
Have to say it's a very courageous set of policies. Makes Labour and The Greens look like wimps.

For starters check out Job Guarantee program.

Register for our Job Guarantee Scheme

Find out more
 
basilio said:
Came across this fledging "New Liberals" Party
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I haven't looked into them but I think there'd be rather a lot of people happy to vote for an "old" Liberal Party.

The party using that name today is nothing like the one Menzies intended indeed it's nothing like the one which existed 30 years ago.

Whether anyone agreed with the detail of their ideas or not, at least they had serious, intelligent people in charge and there was an explainable logic behind their thinking back then.
 
Smurf1976 said:
Whether anyone agreed with the detail of their ideas or not, at least they had serious, intelligent people in charge and there was an explainable logic behind their thinking back then.
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Turnbull was the closet we got to that position, but he was thrown out by the Neanderthals. :(
 
wayneL said:
¿Qué?

Turnbull would always have been more at home in Labor.. nothing remotely like Menzies.
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Don't know about that Wayne.

Menzies and Chifley got on pretty well I believe.

They had more points in common than differences imo.
 
SirRumpole said:
Don't know about that Wayne.

Menzies and Chifley got on pretty well I believe.

They had more points in common than differences imo.
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Yeah but modern Labour bears no resemblance to Chifley either.
 
SirRumpole said:
In what way are they different ?
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In those days, the ALP was not the party for inner the city woke or corporate interests. Like the Liberal Party, they have foresaken their base constituency.
 
Some good ideas, I like a good portion of them. Unfortunately as soon as these parties get in power, we find that the members end up doing things for their own benefit.

It's the people, not the policies you have to watch. Politics attracts a certain calibre= low.
 
Smurf1976 said:
I haven't looked into them but I think there'd be rather a lot of people happy to vote for an "old" Liberal Party.

The party using that name today is nothing like the one Menzies intended indeed it's nothing like the one which existed 30 years ago.

Whether anyone agreed with the detail of their ideas or not, at least they had serious, intelligent people in charge and there was an explainable logic behind their thinking back then.
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The world is very, very different from 30/60 years ago. If the current leader of the New Liberals has the courage and capacity to start a private prosecution of Christian Porter running and shed some real light on the circumstances around the allegations that would be a big start. At least there would be evidence of some principles.

Have to say I'm surprised there has been little comment on the "new Liberals" policies. (Moxjo did note he had checked it out ) They are very adventurous/forward thinking IMV.
 
The problem with any of the new or minor parties is that they do not get much light of day in the media, reinforcing the status quo as an ipso facto establishment two party state.

It would be no less difficult and probably far more successful to try to change the established parties from within
 
basilio said:
Have to say I'm surprised there has been little comment on the "new Liberals" policies. (Moxjo did note he had checked it out ) They are very adventurous/forward thinking IMV.
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It's a pretty big mix. I like a lot of it and agree it's "adventurous". Would any of it ever get off the ground without being watered down(senate) to it being pointless though?
 
wayneL said:
The problem with any of the new or minor parties is that they do not get much light of day in the media, reinforcing the status quo as an ipso facto establishment two party state.

It would be no less difficult and probably far more successful to try to change the established parties from within
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As has happened to a degree in W.A, McGowan isn't cow towing to the union factions and appears to be W.A focused rather than factional issue focused.
Barnett was of a similar ilk, he was criticised for being a one man band, but in reality it was because he was W.A focused rather than pressure group and media focused.
Eventually the system takes them down, as will probably happen with McGowan, when his honeymoon period with the media comes to an end.
Meanwhile people like McGowan can get a lot done in a very short period of time, W.A has been very fortunate to have consecutive leaders with similar traits. :2twocents
 
wayneL said:
The problem with any of the new or minor parties is that they do not get much light of day in the media, reinforcing the status quo as an ipso facto establishment two party state.

It would be no less difficult and probably far more successful to try to change the established parties from within
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Possibly true.

The Democrats started off well then withered on the vine.

Certain independants trade on their reputations and win without the people having much idea of what their policies are.

It's too easy to tag some parties with clever epithets like "watermelons" even though some of their policies are quite good.

In my view if a new party is to start up successfully it has to be led by someone with established credentials either in politics or the community so people know who they are and what they stand for well in advance.

Don Chipp filled that bill, but the Dems failed their succession planning.
 
sptrawler said:
Are you sure a 'job guarantee scheme' is what the unemployed want?
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Absolutely.. And frankly if someone didn't want a job on the basis of the "job guarantee" scheme they deserve the biggest kick up the xrse ever.

I was far more interested in the ambition of the scheme. They theoretically want to guarantee a good job at living wages for 3 million people. :eek: That's eye watering job creation. I don't think any political party has attempted such an audacious policy move. Of course this could be just a way to promote the fledgling party and get some names on a potential supports list.

One thing is certain. There will be some pencil sharpening done to demonstrate how totally impracticable and wildly socialist such a scheme would be.:)

“If you know any of the 3 million people living below the poverty line, please encourage them to register for our Job Guarantee Scheme, where anyone who wants a job will be guaranteed one, and at a good living wage, providing more than enough for rent, food and all other requirements of a dignified life. When we get into government or in a position to influence government, they will be ensured of early placement in the Scheme

Please enter whichever contact details you wish below, so we are able to contact you when the time comes.”
 
I'm sure a lot want a job. But I grew up in an area that was high unemployment and those guys are still on the dole to this day (30+ years). Some people don't want to work or join the system for multiple reasons.
 
moXJO said:
I'm sure a lot want a job. But I grew up in an area that was high unemployment and those guys are still on the dole to this day (30+ years). Some people don't want to work or join the system for multiple reasons.
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I hear what you say and certainly there are some people like that. But I go back to what I said. If people were offered a reasonable job at a fair wage but demurred then have a go at them. My point was the very ambitious policy platform offered by the New Libs.
 
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