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I take no offense- did you see how I avoided the question? Let me ask you one. Given that I have said that the larger the data set the more accurate youcan become, do you think equities has the required characteristics I am looking for?
Given that there were only eight trades a week ( and there would be plenty more)That level of return just tells me that it's relevant.
Cheers
Sir o
By the way you've worded the question, I'm assuming the answer is 'no'. I don't understand chaos theory, and don't want to make any effort to do so, so I'm just asking questions from the end-user point of view (if you end up selling your method, that is). So let's say it's a forex or futures system that's highly scalable and can return 40%pa. Now what? Apply for a huge margin loan and trade it for huge profits? I'm happy for you, but how do I get some of the action?!! And what about that equity curve!??
Oh come onnnnn! That chart means nothing, and you know it.
What is this thread but a tease? What's the point?
You have people interested. Fine. Now what? Where's this going?
If your system is 5 years off going commercial, tell us and I'll stop posting.
If it's about thrashing out ideas about chaos theory, get on with it. 95% of people reading won't understand it.
actually I wanted to use the forum members for a sounding board to see where I need to tighten up the text or explain things better before I use it somewhere else.
Sir O: The thread started out with the potential to be both challenging and thought provoking. I knew that I would have to read it carefully to grasp some of the broad concepts in a field that I know little. I am disappointed that you decided not to take us on a journey of discovery where new ideas and other ways of interpreting the market data would surprise me as we journeyed forth.
I would describe your trading as just another pattern trading strategy. You have identified a pattern that repeats enough to profit by its existence. Very simplistic I know but the thread didn't explore the concepts and their application fully for me to appreciate the extent of your IP.
I would ask you to consider resuming the journey rather than be distracted by the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
I've just realized that's the answer, O.
Buy Chaos Hunter software, $1500. Input your fundamental and technical data there. Will give you everything you need, and more.
For this little bit of priceless advice, I'd like you to PM me the inputs. I've just saved you tens of thouasands of dollars and years of system development.
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So that's one person who wants me to continue...and I still want to talk to Motorway...anyone else want me to keep plugging away?
Cheers
Sir O
Chaos Hunter might be OK.. But the secret is to be found in asking the right questions , and in the correct syntax .
A spread sheet could do this...
The secret is in to do with what is the nature of X that is correlated to the Ys
Ys are all the things you can think of
( The market properties you are interested in )
The italics are because it isn't a real secret
Motorway
This====> Does not fill me with confidence
So that's one person who wants me to continue...and I still want to talk to Motorway...anyone else want me to keep plugging away?
Cheers
Sir O
According to Ward, the secret, (if there is one), is in choosing ther right inputs. CH works out the syntax for you. That's it's job. The manual explains how it works. It's all there. O isn't going to share anything of value. It's called grandstanding. Big freakin deal!
I don't agree that markets are chaotic. A basic property of a chaotic system is one where a tiny change in the current state of the system leads to large changes in the future state of the system. E.g. the weather, where the proverbial butterfly flapping it's wings could reasonably affect the formation/path of a hurricane some time later.
I doubt that the markets behave like this. It seems unlikely that individual buy/sells affect the prices at some later date, even for the individual securities involved, let alone the entire market.
The broad market moves (bubbles and crashes) are probably more of a forced response to existing legislation, or innate human nature, or well understood cycles, rather than chaotic.
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