Value Collector
Have courage, and be kind.
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Council hasn't demanded that you install certain infrastructure for them, and they aren't regulating your pricing.so having my own business, some fixed costs as you can imagine , why can I not charge the local council for the service I could provide them should they want to ask for it?
It changes depending on the rate of Bonds etc. basically it's a certain margin (3% or so) above other lower risk investments such as bonds depending on the asset.they were garanteed from memory a 8% return, could have been ok at the time but imagine now..rubbing hands
I have not demanded to have that infrastructure installed and was happy/am happy not to have service connected ...This has a name extorsion.End result, my tenant (business) has closed...one more...Council hasn't demanded that you install certain infrastructure for them, and they aren't regulating your pricing.
lower? with a government guarantee??just a cash machinelower risk investments such as bonds d"
Anyway if people are happy to pay $1000 a year to have the knowledge that there is a pipe of water along the road, what can I do, this country deserves its leaders.lower? with a government guarantee??just a cash machine
I have not demanded to have that infrastructure installed and was happy/am happy not to have service connected ...
Not sure what you are talking about? What government guarantee?lower? with a government guarantee??just a cash machine
If there's something I haven't said much about it's my real reason for concern. It's somewhat more basic and less specific to the industry than you might be expecting.
Firstly, electricity and/or gas is an input to the overwhelming majority of all economic activity. With very few exceptions, just about every business uses electricity and/or gas in some way.
So in moving from among the cheapest energy in the world to being among the most expensive we have in one fell swoop increased the costs and reduced competitiveness of practically every business in the country. From a political perspective I'll add that the extent of this impost far exceeds that of the much talked about carbon tax and also exceeds anything most unions have been party to in recent times.
Then there's the human side to it all. It's inevitable that, a few weeks from now, we'll be hearing plenty of stories about people receiving massive electricity or gas bills. Winter is the season of highest total consumption in many areas and with the recent price jumps it's going to have a pretty big impact on many.
The only way such stories won't be in the news is if the media chooses to not run them but there's going to be a lot of pain arriving pretty soon as the bills turn up.
Overall it just saddens me that heating a house, having a hot shower without using an egg timer and cooking dinner is fast becoming a symbol of wealth rather than the taken for granted entitlement it was not too long ago. This just shouldn't be a problem in a country with such an abundance of resources.
It would be bad enough if the situation had arisen due to unavoidable factors. That it happened for no reason other than the blind pursuit of ideology is just ridiculous.
It's not easy being green, I guess those feeling the pinch, will have to get a warm feeling from their sacrifice for the greater good.
I think you have the wrong ideology there. You say "green" ideology is the problem, but it's actually privatisation policy that is the problem, and the splitting off of the various parts of the energy supply spectrum into their components all with their inbuilt costs and profit margins thus eliminating the benefits of cross subsidising the various elements of generation, distribution and retailing.
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The cost of green power has been steadily reducing, rooftop PV has been reducing some of the demand, but since Hazlewood was taken out of the picture by a foreign private company thanks to Kennet selling it off there is a generation shortfall because politicians thought that privatisation solved the problems for them and they dropped the ball on maintaining and replacing the old coal stations in an orderly process.
I don't agree, there is a lot more to it.I think you have the wrong ideology there. You say "green" ideology is the problem, but it's actually privatisation policy that is the problem, and the splitting off of the various parts of the energy supply spectrum into their components all with their inbuilt costs and profit margins thus eliminating the benefits of cross subsidising the various elements of generation, distribution and retailing.
The cost of green power has been steadily reducing, rooftop PV has been reducing some of the demand, but since Hazlewood was taken out of the picture by a foreign private company thanks to Kennet selling it off there is a generation shortfall because politicians thought that privatisation solved the problems for them and they dropped the ball on maintaining and replacing the old coal stations in an orderly process.
I don't agree, there is a lot more to it.
I mean some of the cheapest suppliers around the world are privately owned systems, and some of the "cheap" government ones are cheap because the are subsidised by tax payers.
Offcourse there is expensive private too, and some genuinely cheap state owned, but it's not as simple as saying private = expensive, state owned =cheap.
If that was the only problem, companies would be putting in new coal fired power stations, as coal is still a cheap fuel.
They aren't, because of the blind "green" push, which will manifest itself in a drop in living standards.IMO
I am not entirely sure of your point.I agree with that, but to raise money from distribution, when you don't own the product is a difficult proposition.
Therefore to cover your costs, you can only charge the user, you have no control over the product.
This would be fine if it was a static model, but it isn't, the network degrades loads increase which require the installation of upgrades coverage increases etc.
When the Governments owned the "whole" system, a small increase in costs, could be spread over the generation, distribution and administration.
Now that isn't possible, so a slight reduction in fuel costs, isn't transferred to a slight increase in distribution costs.
The slight decrease in fuel cost, is not passed on and the slight increase in distribution cost is.
I am not entirely sure of your point.
But the cost of fuel is a relatively small part of the cost base, a 10% reduction in the price of fuel would never flow to a 10% reduction in the price of electricity.
It's exactly the same in the petrol supply chain, a 50% reduction in the price of oil will never mean a 50% reduction in the price of unleaded fuel, it would probably only relate to a 15% - 20% reduction in the price of unleaded, due to the large amount of fixed costs.
e.g, Oil might drop 50%, But because the price of oil is only a portion of the price you pay per litre of fuel, the total price you pay won't drop.
Service station rent + other site costs, Government fuel tax, refining costs, trucking costs, Insurance, staff wages, the list is huge, none of these costs drop just because the price of fuel went down.
when you pay $1.5 for a litre of unleaded, as little as 40cents of that relates to the price of a barrel of oil, so if oil drops 50% you can expect fuel to drop 20cents.
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