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The future of energy generation and storage

Scotland for sun?
Just kidding plenty of wind there
 
Also thermal runaway shouldn't be an issue.
But one issue is the windier, the colder so wind increases, windfarm output jumps but demand jumps with heating..unless you use gas heaters...
So great actually in principle but not that great for batteries
 
But one issue is the windier, the colder so wind increases, windfarm output jumps but demand jumps with heating..unless you use gas heaters...
So great actually in principle but not that great for batteries

Mr Maizie said rechargeable batteries that were hot or smoking were in a dangerous state known as thermal runaway, and should never be put in a fridge or freezer.

"We're very fortunate that the people were awake this morning, they saw it happening, it was getting hot, he put it in a freezer, but that doesn't actually cool it down," Mr Maizie said.

"Once it starts it's called thermal runaway and it will continue then explode and catch fire. It's a very powerful battery and causes a really big fire."
 
But one issue is the windier, the colder so wind increases, windfarm output jumps but demand jumps with heating..unless you use gas heaters...
I did see at a petrol station in Scotland a pump dispensing heating oil.

It was a lot cheaper than diesel or petrol, a third or so of the price from memory, and there was a large warning sign about going to prison if you put heating oil into a vehicle due to tax evasion.

I thus paid a comparative fortune and filled the car's tank with diesel.

Also in Scotland I recall seeing bags of coal being sold at petrol stations. Just the thing you'll need if you're driving one of these:

 
It is a similar layout to the $3.5 billion U.S. National Ignition Facility (NIF) in Northern California, which in 2022 generated more energy from a fusion reaction than the lasers pumped into the target - "scientific breakeven".
Eveleth, who is working with analysts at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies (CNS), estimates the experiment bay at the Chinese facility is about 50% bigger than the one at NIF, currently the world's largest.

From reuters
 
Probably the 17min mention in #9315
I know we have been ramping fusion for a lifetime but it is coming and i genuinely believe i will see it commercially running in my lifetime
 
Probably the 17min mention in #9315
I know we have been ramping fusion for a lifetime but it is coming and i genuinely believe i will see it commercially running in my lifetime
I agree with you and as with most things, it is only a matter of time.

Eventually the world will be able to be powered by renewables, it is just a matter of time IMO.
 
I agree with you and as with most things, it is only a matter of time.

Eventually the world will be able to be powered by renewables, it is just a matter of time IMO.
RE and fusion, the economics will never match imho focusing on pure RE, especially in countries like Australia and EU turning into economic laggards.
 
Eventually the world will be able to be powered by renewables, it is just a matter of time IMO.
Ultimately there is no choice since non-renewables are just that, they're finite resources.

A point lost among the politics is that energy was widely seen as a problem for well over a decade before anyone said anything at all about climate. Indeed coal was seen as the stopgap means of addressing the more pressing problems presented by oil and gas.

Fossil fuels are a problem with or without CO2 being a problem. Not because we're about to run out of them as such, but because high quality cheaply accessible reserves are indeed limited - society's in for a rough ride economically if we're forced to accept declining grades of fuel recovered at increasing cost, that's as inflationary as it gets.

Alternatives have to be made to work, the question's about how best to do it.
 
The future of the airline industry is the most problematic as there is little alternative to fossil fuels for their operations.

I can't see batteries powering A380's from London to Sydney any time soon.
 
The future of the airline industry is the most problematic as there is little alternative to fossil fuels for their operations.

I can't see batteries powering A380's from London to Sydney any time soon.
Syngas is a reality: electricity plus air/co2 and you can get petrol like compounds and aviation fuel
Porsche is building a plant purely to ensure green stamped supplies for its collectors items f.e.
In the new reset world of WEF, only the richest and their government servitors will fly so cost is no issue..
 
The future of the airline industry is the most problematic as there is little alternative to fossil fuels for their operations.

I can't see batteries powering A380's from London to Sydney any time soon.
I doubt batteries could actually get an A380 up to take off speed, let alone get it off the ground. The batteries to do that would probably weigh more than the plane and imagine the size of the propellers .
 
I doubt batteries could actually get an A380 up to take off speed, let alone get it off the ground. The batteries to do that would probably weigh more than the plane and imagine the size of the propellers .
The Yamks did experiment with nuclear powered aircraft but they never took off. Yuk yuk.
 
The future of the airline industry is the most problematic as there is little alternative to fossil fuels for their operations.

I can't see batteries powering A380's from London to Sydney any time soon.
There are already alternatives to AVTUR and AVGAS.

SAFInvestor highlights three biofuel refineries to be built in Australia.

Worldwide, there are some 190 companies getting involved in SAF according to SAF fuels

The FAA have already mandated the phasing out of fossil fuels, and plan to be net zero in carbon by 2050.
Mick
 
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