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If he does get another term I hope he doesn't have to rely on the Greens.
The TEALS are a bit climate ideological also and could cause trouble, although overall they seem a bit more sensible.
If he does get another term I hope he doesn't have to rely on the Greens.I just hope there is an early election and Albo gets another term,
I just hope he can get a zillion solar panels and thousands of batteries up an running quickly, or it is deep poo poo.If he does get another term I hope he doesn't have to rely on the Greens.
The TEALS are a bit climate ideological also and could cause trouble, although overall they seem a bit more sensible.
And then a few bad storms and we get billions in shards which are highly cadmium contaminated and should require asbestos like handling.....I just hope he can get a zillion solar panels and thousands of batteries up an running quickly, or it is deep poo poo.
If he does it, it will be World beating and memorable, they will probably make it a national holiday, when they can actually say we are don't need firming for renewables.
I honestly hope I'm alive to see it, it will happen, but it will take a long time IMO.
Everything will be well and truly cast by then.10y will be enough to get a good idea of where we are heading i think
Ohh yes, but no one will be able to ignore itEverything will be well and truly cast by then.
In a politically neutral engineering context batteries are peaking plant if correctly used. They're useful to cover short periods of high demand or provide an immediate response to plant failure but that's where it ends.The realities of battery effectiveness
Politics before pragmatism. The reason nothing gets done in this country.In a politically neutral engineering context batteries are peaking plant if correctly used. They're useful to cover short periods of high demand or provide an immediate response to plant failure but that's where it ends.
If the need is serious energy storage well there's a reason why the overwhelming majority of all storage globally is hydro. It's the most economic means of bulk storage by far.
It's not that this can't be made to work. It's just that as a society we're taking the approach of trying every possible option other than the right ones. Akin to the worker who takes on every possible task other than their actual job or the child who looks everywhere except where they know the missing thing is hidden. Going through the motions, making it look like we're really trying, when it's set up to fail.
Burning diesel extracted from Russia via India or Middle East, then shipped to Australia instead of local coal.. fighting GW step by step..SA seem to have joined the more practical side of energy generation.
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Getting the power companies to subsidise batteries for rooftop solar owners might help ?Well @Smurf1976 , it is all getting exciting now. Lol
As you predicted.
Market operator says emergency powers needed to switch off panels as solar tsunami 'threatens wipeout'
With the rise and rise of rooftop solar showing no signs of stopping in Australia, the market operator says "emergency" powers to control it are urgently needed.www.abc.net.au
AEMO said the ever growing output from solar was posing an increasing threat to the safety and security of the grid because it was pushing out all other forms of generation that were needed to help keep the system stable.
And it warned that unless it had the power to reduce – or curtail – the amount of rooftop solar times, more drastic and damaging measures would need to be taken.
These could include increasing the voltage levels in parts of the poles-and-wires network to "deliberately" trip or curtail small-scale solar in some areas.
The ability to restore the system following a black system event may also be compromised at times of very high distributed PV (rooftop solar) generation."
The physics problem
At the heart of the concerns about Australia's occasional over-abundance of solar is a technical phenomenon known as minimum demand.
The term refers to the demand for power from the grid.
Necessarily, it excludes the demand that is met by rooftop solar panels — so-called behind-the-meter sources of supply that are provided by customers themselves.
Getting the power companies to subsidise batteries for rooftop solar owners might help ?
Not sure what you are getting at there, but you know more about it than me.So that we get the suckers role again, can't wait!
Pay solar panels, inverter, installation et maintenance/insurance then providers decide to charge us for the privilege of pushing power back...
Now customers will pay and install/ maintain batteries, will be too dumb to realise that when they buy and sell kwh, they are paying for a 10% capacity loss in the round trip, and will see their battery life shortened as a side effect of saving a few cents each day on paper.
Next we could be provided with exercise bikes and dynamo, and a very reasonable fitness fee
Not when the customer pay for it at tetail price, get slugged a feeding/storage fee..you will agree that economy of scale would not make it sensible unless energy provider rip off the end customerNot sure what you are getting at there, but you know more about it than me.
If over-supply into the grid is the problem, isn't finding a way to store the excess part of the solution?
Thats why I suggested the batteries be subsidised.Not when the customer pay for it at tetail price, get slugged a feeding/storage fee..you will agree that economy of scale would not make it sensible unless energy provider rip off the end customer
A long time ago in Tasmania the Hydro used to set up a display at the Hobart Show each year filled with all sorts of contraptions for freezing your hands, making your hair stand on end, using your body as a battery, creating artificial lightning and so on.Next we could be provided with exercise bikes and dynamo, and a very reasonable fitness fee
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