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Thought Id google this chap, yep as I thought, on the US gov payroll, aka the worlds greatest Climate Change denyers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Chapman
The facts seem incontrovertible however. The planet's temp has been stable or cooling for a decade.
I'm going long on long underwear.
Ah yes... I must remember to adjust my vernacular to the current propag.... err, paradigm. (waffle waffle)I do believe the preferred phrase to cooling is "warming isn't increasing at the same rate"
Gotta be PC about these things Wayne
That's enough of me being a smart ar$e. I'll go and find something else to make fun of.
CLIMATOLOGISTS may insist the world is getting warmer and that climate change is here to stay.
But the meteorological phenomenon called La Niña, in which the central and eastern Pacific Ocean is getting cooler, means global temperatures will drop slightly this year.
But this year's temperatures would still be way above the average - and weADVERTISEMENTwould soon exceed the record year of 1998 because of global warming induced by greenhouse gases
POLAR ice is melting faster than previously believed and could have reached a "tipping point" beyond which it may not be able to recover, a report warns today.
It appears Spooly that more recent data shows that that sunspot is infact an old cycle one and has not heralded the commencement of cycle 24."New solar cycles always begin with a high-latitude, reversed polarity sunspot," explains Hathaway. "Reversed polarity" means a sunspot with opposite magnetic polarity compared to sunspots from the previous solar cycle. "High-latitude" refers to the sun's grid of latitude and longitude. Old cycle spots congregate near the sun's equator. New cycle spots appear higher, around 25 or 30 degrees latitude.
The sunspot that appeared on January 4th fits both these criteria.
http://www.spaceweather.com/ said:Sunspot 992 poses no threat for strong solar flares. The magnetic field of this sunspot is now well characterized; the N-S pattern identifies it as an old-cycle rather than a new-cycle sunspot. Solar Cycle 23 remains active. Credit: SOHO/MDI
Maybe John Howard was right - Global warming is a load a bull****.
I agree though, weather global warming is an issue or not, we should still do it for our own health.
So true DocJ...Thou shalt not speak ill of global warming.
so when it comes to climate we are like noobs with a moving average trying to figure out elliot wave. regardless of the outcome the public research process is really interesting.
http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news...shrinking-fast-says-scientist-91466-20812019/.. on ABC News tonight they show a NZ Glacier dying, and they said no hope for it because the temperatures are continuing to get too hot. They sounded pretty convincing too.
Tasman glacier shrinking fast, says scientist
Apr 24 2008 icWales
A glacier scientist says New Zealand’s biggest glacier is melting faster than at any time in recent history and could be reduced to a few miles of ice within 20 years.... etc
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/Earth/Are_we_heading_to_ice_age/articleshow/2975016.cms
CANBERRA: Scientists have warned that the world might once again be heading towards an Ice Age, with global warming approaching a possible end.
Evidence in support of this theory has come from pictures obtained from the US Solar and Heliospheric Observatory, which showed no spots on the sun, thus determining that sunspot activity has not resumed after hitting an 11-year low in March last year.
A sunspot is a region on the sun that is cooler than the rest and appears dark.
A minimum in the eleven-year sunspot cycle may have taken place in late 2007 [1] and while the observation of a reverse polarity sunspot [1] on 4 January 2008 officially began Cycle 24, no additional sunspots have yet been seen in this cycle
The world's climate must be taken as a whole to discuss global warming/cooling. Single incidences may have other local factors at play... deforestation, heat sink effect, el niño/la niña, whatever.http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news...shrinking-fast-says-scientist-91466-20812019/
explod
I think they said it would start to grow again if / when we have another ice age. (mini-ice age whatever).
The sight of a lake 7km long and 250m deep - which they inferred used to glacier - and several boats on it
The world's climate must be taken as a whole to discuss global warming/cooling. Single incidences may have other local factors at play... deforestation, heat sink effect, el niño/la niña, whatever.
On a whole the world has been getting cooler over the last decade... and that's from the likes of NASA etc.
By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 4, 2006; Page A03
Heat waves like those that have scorched Europe and the United States in recent weeks are becoming more frequent because of global warming, say scientists who have studied decades of weather records and computer models of past, present and future climate.
While it is impossible to attribute any one weather event to climate change, several recent studies suggest that human-generated emissions of heat-trapping gases have produced both higher overall temperatures and greater weather variability, which raise the odds of longer, more intense heat waves.
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Waynel it would be good if you could quote the NASA reports
Drew Shindell, an atmospheric physicist at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies who attended Della-Marta's presentation, said the European findings are especially significant because they draw on long-term surface temperature records.
"The European records, being so long, make a convincing case that we're already seeing changes" in the climate, Shindell said. "This is not like 'Centuries from now the ice sheets will melt.' This is 'In a few decades it will be dramatically different.' To me, that's alarming."
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By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 4, 2006; Page A03
Heat waves like those that have scorched Europe and the United States in recent weeks are becoming more frequent because of global warming, say scientists who have studied decades of weather records and computer models of past, present and future climate.
While it is impossible to attribute any one weather event to climate change, several recent studies suggest that human-generated emissions of heat-trapping gases have produced both higher overall temperatures and greater weather variability, which raise the odds of longer, more intense heat waves.
Waynel it would be good if you could quote the NASA reports
The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis. 2007 tied 1998, which had leapt a remarkable 0.2°C above the prior record with the help of the "El Niño of the century". The unusual warmth in 2007 is noteworthy because it occurs at a time when solar irradiance is at a minimum and the equatorial Pacific Ocean is in the cool phase of its natural El Niño-La Niña cycle.
Figure 1 shows 2007 temperature anomalies relative to the 1951-1980 base period mean. The global mean temperature anomaly, 0.57°C (about 1°F) warmer than the 1951-1980 mean, continues the strong warming trend of the past thirty years that has been confidently attributed to the effect of increasing human-made greenhouse gases (GHGs) (Hansen et al. 2007). The eight warmest years in the GISS record have all occurred since 1998, and the 14 warmest years in the record have all occurred since 1990.
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