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The Bolt Report

My thanks to gg for sending me the article in question.

Couldn't Andrew Bolt have equally made his point in principle without specifically naming any of the individuals, thus drawing attention to what's surely a genuine concern, but without putting himself in such a vulnerable position?
 

I'm not answering your question, just going to vent a little:

I don't like Andrew Bolt. I've listened to him over the years and some of the things he says are quite entertaining. I think he's only good for those cameos on talk shows like Rove, where he says "something outrageous"

He's rabid, on a mission and predictable. I don't think his radio personality is real an he doesn't deserve all the attention he gets in the social media.

I love listening to local social commentators on am radio and I'm a big big fan of Tom Elliot
 

It wouldn't really change much. Sort of like saying "Muslims are terrorists" instead of "Joe is a terrorist because he is Muslims are terrorists".
 

There would be a case for discussing whether some people were claiming to be aboriginal to gain some extra advantage because of particular laws or benefits that were given to aborigines rather than the fact that they had always been raised as such .

Andrew Bolt decided to prosecute his argument by identifying particular aboriginal people to make the point. The trouble was two fold.

1) He made a series of either deliberate or incompetent errors in his journalism to paint the people in a particular light to suit his argument.

2) He used his particular skills of mockery, sarcasm and belittlement to ensure everyone who read the story as presented would believe the people were pretty low opportunists.

These 2 points were at the heart of Judge Bromberg decision and he did make it clear that people do have a right to discuss racial questions - they just can't use distortions or lies and inflammatory language as part of a "hand on heart " free speech excuse. (And that is written into the Racial Discrimination act as well)




In the end Judge Bromberg has basically said Andrew Bolt was lucky he wasn't facing 9 defamation cases because essentially his misrepresentations and journalist style laid him open to that possibility.
 
1) non sequitur.
2) doublethink and outright insanity. read it again and self-medicate (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance).

Here, I can jibber with the best of them:
"Freedom in general implies a freedom to perform actions which I like. Freedom is not a 'protection' for people I don't like to do things that I disagree with. In fact, in reality, 'freedom' means that if you don't do what I want, I can set a lion on you'.

Just remember everyone, when you are struggling to comprehend the insanity of the world, just remind yourself that 2+2=5, and everything becomes clear and obvious .
 
It seems that some from the left who would like to be rid of Murdoch media are the ones crowing the loudest about the Bolt judgement.

Is this really about Bolt or is this being used in a further attempt to silence any dissenting media?

There seems to be more personal attacks on Abbott and now Bolt rather than discussing their respective politics or opinions. It is much the same on forums where those on the seeming greenie left will discredit anyone who disagrees with them on carbon tax rather than discuss said tax.

This seems to be another attack on the messenger rather than the message. They give reason to think this is a concerted effort from the likes of GetUp.

Are you from GetUp, Basilio?
 
Sails et al. Don't worry about what I and other "watermelons" / "warmists" might be saying.

Just focus on Judge Brombergs statements about Andrew Bolts many gross inaccuracies/lies in his work and the language he used to try and blacken the people he was talking about.,

That is the issue isn't it ?
 
Mike Calton

"Nuts come out after the truth has bolted"



This is the point

The judge did not smother free speech. He skewered dud journalism.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/socie...-has-bolted-20110930-1l1al.html#ixzz1ZTxip0k8
 
So why do people with a splash of coulour choose to be part of that heritage and not the majority of their blood
 

Having now read Bolt's article, I don't disagree with your comment above, basilio.

I think bellenuit has summarised the situation best in her post below:

 
2) He used his particular skills of mockery, sarcasm and belittlement to ensure everyone who read the story as presented would believe the people were pretty low opportunists.

Whereas they were high-minded citizens.:dunno: We all know about Clark, and as for Larissa Behrend, well she made a very nasty gutter remark about "fellow" aborigine Bess Price.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-on-black-leader/story-fn59niix-1226039396368
 
There has been nothing better over the last few years than watching David Marr comprehensively demolish Bolt's dim bigotries face to face on Insiders.
 
There has been nothing better over the last few years than watching David Marr comprehensively demolish Bolt's dim bigotries face to face on Insiders.

Equalled over the last few years by watching Andrew Bolt comprehensively demolish Marr's dim bigotries face to face on Insiders.

They are of a kind, by pure chance on opposite sides of a debate.

gg
 
Interesting to see other examples surfacing of Andrew Bolt's misrepresentation of peoples views.

Martin Flanagan posted a story of how Andrew tried to give him a bad look.

Bolt's barks of discontent lack bite
Martin Flanagan


THREE years ago, Andrew Bolt wrote a blog post attacking my views on the origins of Australian football that began: ''Another Noble Savage myth pushed by journalists is disclosed.'' The problem was I did not hold the views Bolt attributed to me.

When a woman called Janine posted a quote from an article from the Victoria University magazine Sport and Culture, in which my views were accurately described, Bolt reacted angrily, telling Janine he would ban her from his blog if she kept making mischievous posts. He then attributed a second position to me - again one I did not hold - and bounded off like a kangaroo caught in the headlights to his next subject.

......I met Anita Heiss, one of the litigants in the Bolt case, seven years ago. She has a generous spirit and is frank and forthright. Coming from Tasmania, I am aware of the extent to which definitions of Aboriginality can become ultra-defensive and ossify. Here was a young woman who was proudly Aboriginal but totally open about her Austrian father's side of her family. To me, she represented a way forward, so I wrote about her.

Bolt used the article. Other than her name, he got virtually everything about her wrong, including her skin colour and academic achievements, but no less important was the tone of the article, which opened her to ridicule and contempt.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/so...t-lack-bite-20110930-1l1bg.html#ixzz1ZUe82m7H
 
Interesting to see other examples surfacing of Andrew Bolt's misrepresentation of peoples views.

And it's not only Bolt. Another icon of the left, who has been rubbishing Bolt, has put his foot in it. Burnside's credibility is now down there with Bolt's.

PROMINENT Queen's Counsel Julian Burnside has issued an apology to Tony Abbott after tweeting "Paedos in speedos" during a stream of critical remarks about the Opposition Leader on Twitter.

He said;
"I really am genuinely sorry. I am critical of Mr Abbott on a number of grounds and I wouldn't want those criticisms to be diminished because people think I throw around utterly baseless, careless allegations."

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...-on-twitter-slur/story-fn59niix-1226154571680
 
Basilio, your postings and articles require some balance, imo. Not everyone agrees with everything you say no matter how much you use enlarged fonts...

Is this being used to further the attack on free speech in this country? Below are the viewpoints of other people:

Mark Steyn: Free Speech Disaster in Australia

Miranda Divine: Bolt case has ominous echo

George Brandis: Section 18C has no place in a society that values freedom of expression

From the Australian: Assault on free speech should be offensive to all

Chris Merritt Legal affairs editor: The Andrew Bolt decision means all of us have a problem

Former Labor Minister Gary Johns:Cultural identity open for discussion

Michael Connor: Where is justice?

Jason Morrison: You can't say certain things anymore

James Delingpole: Freedom of speech is dead in Australia

Christopher Pearson: Repeal dusty sections of Racial Discrimination Act

that will do for now...
 

Does anyone really take Miranda Devine or Jason Morrison seriously?

I see that George Brandis is pretty much saying what I was up thread, that s18C is too broad.
 
Does anyone really take Miranda Devine or Jason Morrison seriously?

I see that George Brandis is pretty much saying what I was up thread, that s18C is too broad.


And why does Murdoch have such a wide circulation? Hmmm - that usually means people are buying it. People choose what they buy to read. Obviously you are reading with the minority...
 
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