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The Abbott Government

Negative gearing against wage income represents only one part of the problem in relation to property tax/transfer.

The reform perspective needs to be much broader than just this one item.
 
Negative gearing against wage income represents only one part of the problem in relation to property tax/transfer.

The reform perspective needs to be much broader than just this one item.

It's a start that's yet to happen. Bring in some MP till the various levels of Govt can get off their collective flabby buts and increase supply. I'll head back to my flying pig spotting. Never seen one but still hoping.

Tis a shame we as a society have changed our perspective from housing providing shelter to all property being an investment.
 

Speaking from living through the Hawke years, I can tell you the people on the workshop floor were well and truly fed up with Hawke and the unions, by the end of the wages accord.
The unions kept a lid on wage rises and the government promised to keep wages in line with inflation through wage increases and or tax relief.
The problem was the wage rise always came in less than inflation, the government always had a reason why it couldn't be the same and was always short.
By the time Hawke and the Accord was thrown out wages had gone backwards 18% in real terms. That's my memory of it, the biggest scam perpetrated on workers in my opinion.
By the way we all, on the workshop floor voted for Hawke, everyone thought he was going to be the mesiah.
We all ended up very disappointed and disillutioned by Hawke and it was a very militant blue collar workplace.
 
Has the Government doubled the budget deficit?



 
It's a start that's yet to happen. Bring in some MP till the various levels of Govt can get off their collective flabby buts and increase supply. I'll head back to my flying pig spotting. Never seen one but still hoping.

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You may well see the flying pig, you appear to seeing to all the speculative kites, that the media keep floating about what the governments going to do.
 
You may well see the flying pig, you appear to seeing to all the speculative kites, that the media keep floating about what the governments going to do.

If the Govt chooses to leak then the Govt has to wear the cost. they'r ethe ones who've chosen to dog whistle / kite fly.

IMHO they'd have been smarter to have continued with their current policy of everything is a state secret and released the bare minimum on budget night.
 
Has the Government doubled the budget deficit?
Labor budgets have a history of being works of fiction and that includes Wayne Swan's "delivered" surplus.

This government was just correcting the record.
 

That is, if it's government leaks.
My bet is media speculation and sensationalism, they are the ones who pushed for the audit to be made public and since then have been hyperboling it to be government policy.
Thankfully the government didn't release it earlier, it has been nauseating watching Shorten and the media beating it up since its release.
Just mindless dribble, which Shorten seems to be very good at.
In my opinion Labor haven't got a chance with Shorten, his lack of credibility is like a millstone around their necks.
 

So you're saying someone outside the Govt made up the deficit tax and Abbott and Joe have decided to not refute it. If that's true then they're pretty sad politicians.

The CoA was a waste of money. terms of reference so narrow as to pretty much make it usless in educating the public about what needs to be done. How was it going to help build a policy direction when it had no input other that big business and extreme economic rationalists.
 
Labor budgets have a history of being works of fiction and that includes Wayne Swan's "delivered" surplus.

This government was just correcting the record.

Christopher Pyne, December 10, 2011: “Well if there had been a Coalition government for the last five years, Kieran, I think most people accept that we would have had continuing surpluses.”

About as believable as no new taxes and a FTTN by late 2016
 
The books would have without a doubt been in far better shape as would have our border security and that would have been without new taxes or Labor's disastrous NBN.

A lot about the upcoming budget is about repairing the mess Labor left but as we already know, it will also deal with some of the longer term issues on the entitlement side.
 
The books would have without a doubt been in far better shape as would have our border security and that would have been without new taxes or Labor's disastrous NBN.

A lot about the upcoming budget is about repairing the mess Labor left.

Yet no one mentions all the damage Howard and Costello did to the budget. How much revenue has been lost to removing the petrol excise indexation ($5B just this year), halving of CGT, tax free super, transition to retirement pensions, baby bonuses?

A lot of the upcoming budgets should be about repairing the stupidity of the last 10 years, but I'm got my doubts that's what they'll actually try to achieve.

Unless households are willing to go on another debt fill binge to ramp up GST / SD / CGT revenue (they ballooned from 65% to a peak of 150% of disposable income under Howard and just peaked at nearly 180% or $1.8T) the only way forward is via productivity and meaningful tax reform.
 

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A lot has been said about the Howard /Costello years, not the least by you. Also a lot has been said about the Rudd / Gillard years.
However we find ourselves in the present, the beginning of the Abbott / Hockey years, lets wait and see before getting ourselves into a rabid frenzy. Like i said earlier they haven't implemented anything yet, try and save your youthfull enthusiasm untill they do.
The sky isn't falling in this week.
 
Hey Syd, I heard on the news first thing this morning, that the government is meeting today to soften the budget. As though the reporter would have been told that, what a joke.
So the useless media now has a bet both ways, if it's tough they told you so, if it's not so tough they told you so. lol
The reporting in this country is a national disgrace, all it does is give a reporter a platform for his/her personal opinion and really, who wants their personal opinion I can get that in the pub for free.
Is there any wonder newspaper circulation is falling.
Well, that's my opinion, for what it's worth.lol
 
Hey Syd, I heard on the news first thing this morning, that the government is meeting today to soften the budget.

Apparently it will apply to incomes over $150,000. Poor old syd will still get slugged.
 

You seem to have trouble following the chain of events. Government leaks original plan a couple of weeks ago, is heavily criticised and then backs off and leaks again that they are softening it.
 
You seem to have trouble following the chain of events. Government leaks original plan a couple of weeks ago, is heavily criticised and then backs off and leaks again that they are softening it.

O.K Banco, give us a scoop, what is in the budget? What's the original plan? or are you just going to regurgitate what the press spews out endlessly.lol
Apparently you have the inside knowledge.
Actually better still, if you know it, put your money where your mouth is.

http://www.sportsbet.com.au/blog/sportsbet-media/budget-betting-begins

Or do you have trouble following the chain of events also.lol
 

Well Peter Costello certainly seems to disagree with you, reading between the lines he insinuates the government leaked the levy to gauge public reaction.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...bt-levy-will-die/story-fni0cwl5-1226906423665
 
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