Garpal Gumnut
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Cassimatises' bid to avoid court battle
THE husband and wife team who once ran Townsville's now-defunct Storm Financial are tentatively set to face trial on April 29 next year over charges of corporate wrongdoing.
But Emmanuel and Julie Cassimatis have been granted one last chance to water down or even scuttle the proceedings.
The Cassimatises maintain that ASIC had frequently reviewed Storm's financial planning model and never raised an objection to it since the business started in 1993. They say factors beyond the company' control had a severe impact, including the global financial crisis and the sell down of Storm investment portfolios by banks, which allegedly failed to issue margin calls.
Hope for Storm stricken
Mr Levitt said lawyers had evidence to suggest margin lender Macquarie Bank struck deals with Storm Financial from February 15, 2005, and that the Commonwealth Bank's margin lender Colonial Geared Investments struck an agreement from May 18, 2007.
Levitt Robinson has mounted class actions against Macquarie, the Commonwealth Bank and Colonial First State Investments and is preparing to launch another against Bank of Queensland.
Mr Levitt said ASIC was working with Levitt Robinson modelling potential damages claims ahead of court-ordered mediations due to occur with the Commonwealth and Macquarie banks in Sydney next week.
The Cassimatis' are headed to court on May 15th as they attempt to have charges laid by ASIC thrown out.
From the Townsville Bulletin.
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2012/02/17/306591_news.html
It will be interesting to see how it goes for them in court, a judgement in their favour will increase the pressure on the banks. Should it go against them they will face court again in 2013.
The Storm investors will not get a say for some time yet in the Levitt's action against the Banks, Macquarie, CBA, and BOQ as mediation continues.
From the Townsville Bulletin
http://www.townsvillebulletin.com.au/article/2012/02/18/307011_news.html
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The seeking of a summary judgment or a strike out will be interesting to follow.
I agree with your view regarding judgement.
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Ping: Frank are you still an active contributor to this forum ?
I have noticed you have been rather subdued since I noticed a recent post of yours disappeared.
My colleagues and I are eager to know if your new forum is active.
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Ping: Frank are you still an active contributor to this forum ?
I have noticed you have been rather subdued since I noticed a recent post of yours disappeared.
My colleagues and I are eager to know if your new forum is active.
S
HQ - Is it just me or does 90% of what everyone says end up returning to BAD ADVICE. Is that the Stormies fault, no, could they have looked into things further, yes with a but, the but being should they need to.
I do however want to clarify a couple of points. The Storm strategy was legal. It was a legitimate investment strategy. SO no ASIC did not have a problem with it, no FPA did not have a problem with it, no the banks did not have a problem with it (even though I am still lost about how Stormies some how make a link that their 25 year old mortgage person at a bank should be able to tell them to or not to proceed with advice given by a firm with 20 years of industry experience)
Where does that leave us? It leaves us with a high risk strategy sold as low risk. It leaves us with "commoditised" advice that was given to everyone. It leaves us with advisers who did know the risks downplaying them then not acting to protect their clients when S hit fan. It leaves us with clients thinking their advisers were acting in their best interests.
Lets get back to some level of reality. The thread is Storm and it is Storm that is still very much the bulk of the reason clients are wiped out.
Excellent summation Doobsy!
However, without the banks as willing partners, Storm would not have been able to implement their grand design. !
Without the willing participents with dollar signs and luxuary retirement dreams rolling round there eye balls they likewise would not have been able to implement there plan.
Storm and the storm investors together set off on a mission to make mega leveraged returns, and unfortunatly for them it back fired.
The Banks simply set off to make a small interest margin on the loans provided,
They say when the tide go's out you see who was swimming naked, I think you will find the stormies and the storm founders were all swimming naked, But with all their own safe guards the banks were wearing wet suits.
As you say, Doobsy, "Let's get back to some level of reality!"
Hi Solly,
Pong! I am still looking in on the ASF from time to time but I am somewhat ties up at the moment with other matters (ASIC on the subject of professional indemnity insurance for one)- hence no postings. This has also delayed the formulation of my new forum but I'll let you have details of such in due course.
Just a quick observation regarding Manny Cassimatis' allegations where ASIC is concerned. There is no doubt that ASIC has much to answer for in all this because it failed to see the dangers inherent in Storm's financial model, particularly in a falling market. ASIC will argue that it wasn't its job to do so at the time. Whatever, ASIC in my opinion has shown itself to be a "toothless tiger" that is far from being independent. For one, I believe that it is influenced by political considerations and has a tendency to go soft on banks, particularly the CBA. Further, it is run by short-sighted bureaucrats that are reactive rather than proactive. Therefore, nothing will change until ASIC itself is restructured and its employs people that have the capacity to understand the needs of the financial sector and implement changes that also protect investors fully. You can include my remarks where this Government is concerned as well.
Cannot wait until the evidence is tabled and in the public domain for all to see. Then and only then will the real story be told!
Not assumptions that appear on this forum!
When financial planning firm Storm Financial collapsed with $3 billion in investment losses, many of its investors were left destitute. A parliamentary joint committee inquiry into the company’s demise was conducted in response and, in 2010, then Financial Services Minister Chris Bowen announced a series of sweeping reforms aimed at giving greater protection to retail investors.
The Future of Financial Advice (FOFA) reforms are due to come into force on July 1, 2012. The proposals are intended to minimise conflicts of interest and restore confidence in the financial advisory sector. The proposals include: a ban on commissions and rebates on a prospective basis; a requirement for clients to opt in for advice every two years; a duty for financial advisers to act in their client’s best interests; a ban on percentage-based fees on geared products and portfolios; allowing superannuation funds to provide simple intra-fund advice at minimal or no cost to members; and further powers for the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) to act against unscrupulous advisers.
The fundamental purpose of the proposals is to prevent consumers from suffering investment loss arising from inappropriate advice. The most devastating example is attributed to Storm, where about 4000 clients suffered losses estimated to be $3 billion. The advice was based around “double gearing” – by borrowing against the client’s house and then using margin lending to invest heavily in the sharemarket. The undoing of this strategy was the global financial crisis when share values fell heavily and the lenders called in loans – both against the shares and against the client’s house. Yet Storm had complied with procedural requirements of the law at the time. The model used by Storm could exist in the future for some clients, except for a modification to the remuneration method.
Assumptions:
You assume I was greedy for investing in Storm.
You assume I didn't do any investigations.
You assume I wanted a quick get rich scheme.
You assume the banks did no wrong.
I had two Bank Managers and my Accountant meet with Storm representatives and go through the same process that I went through. Then the Bank did there due diligence and said it was a good investment. That Bank has since settled my case. Why because they gave advice based on my assets.
Assumptions:
You assume I was greedy for investing in Storm.
You assume I didn't do any investigations.
You assume I wanted a quick get rich scheme.
The truth of the matter is that if these professionals couldn’t see through it, how could ordinary investors be expected to do so? People on this forum that claim otherwise should wake up to themselves!
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