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I believe it was quite an enlightening day at the Hearing and it doesn't pay to upset a Forensic police officer.

A very well constructed email to your Financial Adviser stating your concerns about the Storm strategy never goes astray either......
 
Yianni Cassimatis has begun giving evidence at a public examination into the company's collapse.

More to follow.

From the ABC;
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/10/21/2720574.htm

Yianni Cassimatis has told the Federal Court he was a researcher at Storm Financial prior to 2006, looking at financial products, including index funds.

Mr Cassimatis has claimed privilege from self-incrimination throughout his evidence.

What does this mean? I'm not a lawyer.

gg
 
Pretty sure that just means that nothing he says can be taken as a confession. If he indicts himself, they still need to find evidence to prove he is guilty.

Wasn't Manny trying to present documents to the inquiry in brisbane that would enable them not to be presented as evidence in later court hearings, and Bernie refused to allow him to do so..

Is this similar?

gg
 


I merely include Mrs Lock's testimony in case anyone from SICAG.info is unaware of the Federal court evidence being reported in the Courier Mail.

It might fill in the large spaces now occupying that site, which all but hide the disclaimer about having the connection with the Cassimatises at the bottom of a very empty page.

gg
 



Bunyip,

Thank you for your kind comments, and for accepting my apology.

I apologised in public so that anyone reading the thread could see that I knew that I was wrong to 'speak' to you as I had done.

There is no excuse that I can offer for this other than I was feeling raw. I am embarrassed that I did it, and am very glad that you accepted my apology.

Mindstorm
 
Rest assured GG... sicag knows all too well what is going on in the federal court as most of them are there to support those who are brave enough to expose themselves. WE will finish strong !!!! and quite frankly your constant diatribe is of little use or importance to any one.
 
Bunyip I can't imagine anything worse than living in rented accommodation on the old age pension.
Nothing worse? How about being on an unemployment benefit which isn't even enough to pay for that rental accommodation, let alone any other expenses.

In comparison the age pension for a couple is fairly reasonable. I know plenty of people who have a perfectly reasonable life on this, even play golf and go out for dinner once a week or so.

If you continue to tell yourself your situation is dire and hopeless, then it will be.
 


gg, the Marriott does look very flash, and there's special drink deals in the Lobby Bar as well. It's in a nice quite part of town, quick access along the river walk to the Riverside Centre, I even noticed a strange cell like structure just near Customs House. I wonder if this is an omen ?
 

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"Referral fee at core of Storm Financial advice, court hears"

"A STORM Financial client alleged in Brisbane Federal Court yesterday that his accountant had recommended an investment scheme only after receiving a $10,000 "referral fee" from the advisory firm.

Sean McArdle told an inquiry into Storm's collapse that his accountant initially had concerns about Storm in late 2006 and suggested alternative investments.

But in a subsequent meeting with Storm, the 42-year-old Sunshine Coast police officer alleged his accountant said the firm offered a good and affordable product with no downsides or elevated risk."


More by Anthony Marx in The Couriers Mail here;

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26243366-3122,00.html
 
"Storm paid accountants a referral fee"

"Failed advisory firm Storm Financial paid referral fees of $10,000 to accountants who recommended the company's investment model to their clients, a court has heard."

Read more by Michelle Singer in The Australian Financial Review of October 22 2009


"Storm spin doctors take the wheel - and the money"

"When it comes to solid self-belief, few public relations firms have anything on crisis management experts FD Third Person, which were engaged by failed advisory firm Storm Financial for a prepaid sum of $74,000 in December prior to the company's collapse."

Read more by Andrew White in The Australian Financial Review of October 22 2009
 
I hope you're right Julia as I've no doubt we will find out for sure how easy it is to live on the old age pension. I'm slowly trying to get my head into a better place than it has been this past few months and I realise that I need to change my way of thinking as you have suggested but I find it is one small step at a time at the present time.

With everyone's support hopefully all the storm survivors will make it and continue to enjoy their life but I think it's important for others out there to realise that it is far from easy. Life as we planned it and knew it, is now gone forever and has been replaced by a life which is very different from the one we envisaged.
 

Solly

When or if you come face to face with Cassamatis, you can ask him a couple of questions from me. I already asked him these questions on his website, but in his typically weak and cowardly way he didn't respond.

If you were managing your clients portfolios, why did you let them evaporate into thin air? Why did you let them sit through more than 12 months of one of the worst bear markets in history, without taking any defensive action that would have saved their portfolios from being decimated?

Well of course we all know the answer - selling clients out would have dried up his cash flow, firstly by eliminating Storm's ongoing management fees, secondly by effectively preventing new clients from coming on board with Storm. I mean, if word had got out that Storm were evacuating their clients from the stockmarket, then nobody in their right mind would have walked into Storm and asked to be put into the market.

There were many faults with the Storm model......
too much gearing
excessive borrowings relative to clients capacity to service their loans
no diversification
excessive up front fees.

But the biggest failing of all was Storm's total lack of risk management.
None of the above shortcomings by itself, or even collectively, would have wiped out Storm clients if only there had been prudent risk management in place.

We can blame the banks for selling down the portfolios, we can blame them for excessive lending, we can blame the faulty data late last year, we can blame the stokmarket crash, if we're really gullible we can allow Cassamatis to pull the wool over our eyes with his claim that the economic meltdown and market crash were 'unprecedented', and if we're extremely naive we can believe that nobody saw the crash coming.

But the truth is that if Storm Financial had been doing their job they would have hauled their clients out of the market long before they got anywhere near margin call.
When it's all said and done, it was the gross incompetence of Storm Financial, and in particular their total lack of risk control, that brought Storm clients undone.

So Solly.....if you or anyone else ever come face to face with Cassamatis, ask him that question for me....Why didn't you take your clients out of the market before their portfolios were decimated?
I'm surprised that nobody has yet asked him that question during the Parliamentary Enquiry.
I challenge SICAG to put my second last paragraph on their website.
 
I hope you're right Julia as I've no doubt we will find out for sure how easy it is to live on the old age pension.

Harleyquin

Julia didn't claim it was 'easy' to live on the old age pension. She merely pointed out that some people are doing it and are still managing to lead quite enjoyable lives.
Julia and I are trying to put across the message that it's not the end of the world if people have to rely on government welfare during their retirement.
It's a situation that all of us could handle if we had to, while at the same time still being reasonably contented.
I know I know.....you'd prefer to have a higher standard of living than that - we all would. But if that's how it pans out for some of us, it's not the end of the world.
 

bunyip, these are excellent questions, what do you think gg ?

Anybody else got any questions to pose ?
 
Just noticed this thread waiting for market to open. Just like to say I'm lucky to have been sucked into meeting Emmanual many years & name changes ago at a time when his main interest seemed to be selling Life Insurance & I didn't have 2 brass razoos to rub together.
At least he wouldn't discuss a financial plan for me until I purchased some Life Insurance & I am very anti Life Ins' so our discussions went no further.
It has been of passing interest over the years to watch the name changes & eventually the building of the pack of cards that have come crashing down so spectacularly. I hear Majorca is a nice place to live, do they still have their passports? :

PS: This is a light-hearted post but I still feel sorry for all those that lost so much.
 
Out too Soon, do you mean Manny has changed his personal name, or that he has had various business names for his various enterprises?

Good to know you didn't provide fodder for him.
 
bunyip, these are excellent questions, what do you think gg ?

Anybody else got any questions to pose ?

Indeed I do, and quite a few..., however the main one would be:

I read in one of the many recent articles about the ongoing enquiry that Manny has apparently claimed that it was not their job to constantly monitor clients' lvrs, and indeed this was only looked at when reviewing a portfolio - perhaps three or four times a year (read " when looking to see if storm could induce further borrowing/investment by client in order to generate fees for storm"). I also think I recall one of their IT people admitting their "state-of-the-art" computer system wasn't capable of doing this as yet - yet apparently it was worth the oodles of moolah storm paid to ignite (yes, owned by Manny & Julie of course!). I quite clearly recall their website promising constant monitoring of their client's portfolios, and the claim that clients were not to worry about the performance of the sharemarket or lvrs etc - that's what they were there for - something along the lines of "Let us worry about your money so you don't have to". (I guess I've got less to worry about now, don't I?) So, to sum up, my question would be:

If storm didn't think it was their job to monitor their client's positions, and spent very little time or effort doing so, and if everyone received the same simple advice to invest in the same simple products - WHAT THE HELL DO THEY THINK THEY WERE BEING PAID FOR????

Sorry to shout, but if I were face to face with them then that is what I would do, so I'd appreciate it greatly Solly if you could deliver my question in a loud belligerent tone, and if you could "accidentally" spill your cappuccino all over his "lap" so much the better:
 
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