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As they say, bad news come in 3's, but rarely in the same week.
So ASIC is looking, and we are still waiting on QPP's account. Then SGH really didn't help its own course by disclosing a "consolidation error" on cash flow. It's a 25% dent on confidence when confidence is already low... and on the most sensitive item at present, and on one of the worst days of for the overall market.
A perfect storm (in a pretty large tea cup).
Plus everyone is looking for anything with even a hint of European exposure
As they say, bad news come in 3's, but rarely in the same week.
So ASIC is looking, and we are still waiting on QPP's account. Then SGH really didn't help its own course by disclosing a "consolidation error" on cash flow. It's a 25% dent on confidence when confidence is already low... and on the most sensitive item at present, and on one of the worst days of for the overall market.
A perfect storm (in a pretty large tea cup).
The one that concerns me is the accounting irregularity. There might be nothing to it, but to be prodded so gently (ASIC only started last Wednesday) and already be coming up with two "mistakes" doesn't really bode well, imo.
Horrific day to announce all this too. Where are the PR people when you need them!
Over the years I learned there are always more than one cockroaches in the kitchen.
I love how SGH is still saying "It doesn't matter the number of QPP, because we did our own DD using our own accounting policies". It's pretty clear that the market has moved on to question SGH's own accounting policies.
VGI's April presentation included two slides that focused on "cash receipts and cash payments being overstated" and claimed there was an unexplained variance of $88 million to $98 million evident on the receipts side in the past two financial years, and a $78 million and $82 million variance evident on the payments side.
"If 'receipts from customers' is inflated, we believe that cash 'payments to suppliers and employees' would also need to be inflated for the cash flow statement to reconcile with the other financial statements," the presentation said.
The one that concerns me is the accounting irregularity. There might be nothing to it, but to be prodded so gently (ASIC only started last Wednesday) and already be coming up with two "mistakes" doesn't really bode well, imo.
Horrific day to announce all this too. Where are the PR people when you need them!
http://www.afr.com/business/legal/h...es-in-slater--gordons-kitchen-20150629-gi0o47
Roll up business and now some dodgy accounting. I wouldn't touch this with a barge pole. Let's see how this plays out.
Yeah, it's no good. To be fair the error had no net effect.
I still think a 43% drop over an inconsequential error and a routine ASIC investigation is excessive.
But there could very well be a link between cash flow discrepancies and WIP accounting. A higher cash receipts balance would have the effect of overstating the extent to which Slater is converting both WIP and receivables into dollars. VGI has suggested as much. To neutralise this impact on the net cash position, cash payments would need to be inflated by the same amount, the presentation suggested.
This would add weight to a theory that the errors revealed by the company on Monday, may reflect more than bad arithmetic and sloppy accounting. That will be one of several questions that will be posed to the company as it prepares to front investors, defend its accounting policies under queries from regulators and a faces up to a confrontation with hedge funds rarely seen in Australian finance.
... This article suggests that the sloppy accounting may be deliberate...
Unless one is innumerate, I don't see how a misstatement of cash receipts can be anything other than deliberate.
Why are errors in financial reports always to the favour of the reporting entity's financial performance and never to its disfavour?
Get on with the program!
The ASIC investigation is no longer routine. That was Thursday in SGH's words. Today it's a proper ASIC probe.
This article suggests that the sloppy accounting may be deliberate. It does explain why it was discovered ever so quickly.
http://www.afr.com/markets/equity-markets/between-the-lines-of-slater--gordons-books-20150629-gi0slg
Get on with the program!
The ASIC investigation is no longer routine. That was Thursday in SGH's words. Today it's a proper ASIC probe.
I don't know if you're aware of this but ASIC investigates A LOT of things, that does not mean there is any wrongoing by the company being investigated. And technically I think it's Pitcher Partners that is being investigated and ASIC is now just making direct inquiries with SGH about its relationship with PP.
Anyway, only time will tell whether there's something to find. Looking forward to seeing how this all plays out.
I don't know if you're aware of this but ASIC investigates A LOT of things, that does not mean there is any wrongoing by the company being investigated. And technically I think it's Pitcher Partners that is being investigated and ASIC is now just making direct inquiries with SGH about its relationship with PP.
Anyway, only time will tell whether there's something to find. Looking forward to seeing how this all plays out.
Inaccurate revenue reporting isn't wrong doing? what universe are you live in? it certain isn't in the stock market universe
Yeah, but perhaps they were just letting common sense prevail even though it was, technically false accounting, as it came to - net net nothing. Who cares? - a neurotic market.
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