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Perhaps what I should have said, "If you come from the wrong side of the tracks you can better understand those from the wrong side of the tracks" And here it seems most are from the good side, born with a silver spoon.
I like your idealism, Explod. In our cynical society we need idealists.My purpose here is for us to consider every individual in society, not matter how bad, to be seen still to have some potential, this is also one of the principles for rehabilitation.
Thanks for the questions Julia. It is always good to have your oversight, and hope this helps.
Yes, there was a news article some years ago discussing soldiers joining the troops for the campaign in Iraq from the streets of New York, it cited actual people and thier story of how it had turned them and many of their fellows around and a cop was quoted as saying how things had improved on the streets as a result.
The response is appreciated, Explod, but I'm still no wiser about what are "itinerant drug problems" (itinerant meaning 'wandering') and how the Iraq war cleaned these from the New York streets.
Thanks for the response, I hadn't seen or heard of the article. Interesting how the war created job opportunities for itinerants. Horrible to think of it as a means of creating employment, cleaning up the cities.
You have to excuse every second post by Explod because like all "good" Coppers if they cannot find the evidence to support their assumptions/beliefs they just make it up!!
Please support her bid for freedom. Thank you so much.
Schapelle Corby is seriously mentally ill. I know this because I have known the Corby family for 25 years and have visited Schapelle in prison on several occasions. I have seen her deterioration and her insanity for myself. She is not faking it, and she will die if she is not returned to Australia for proper psychiatric treatment.
Aside from the intimate knowledge that I have, through my friendship with the Corby family, I have also researched her case extensively for 3 years and I know she is innocent, without a doubt. She was judged guilty, by a panel of 3 Judges, none of whom had ever acquitted a defendant in their entire careers. Chief Judge Linton Sirait actually boasted, at the beginning of Schapelle’s sham trial, that he had never found a defendant innocent in his 500 previous drug related cases. The law of averages alone tells you that he must have sent several other innocent people to prison as well.
Her 20 year sentence was grossly excessive, far in excess of the sentences handed down for other, and often worse, drugs crimes in Indonesia, not to mention murder and rape.
Schapelle is a lovely person and the rest of her family are great people, despite the mistaken impression you may all have about them, having seen them on TV behaving badly (as we would also do, if we were under the pressures they are under).
Right now, Schapelle needs her countrymen to help her, and it’s all about Mateship, the once honoured Australian tradition of helping our Mates when they are down on their luck. As such, I say to all those happy to let her rot - “Take a serious look at yourself. You have lost your empathy and your humanity,” and too many have - a sad indictment of Australian society in the 21st century.
I'm sure these people would think differently if she were their daughter, sister or best friend. I'm also sure that if they were in her shoes, the innocent victim of someone else’s crime, they would expect their countrymen to help them as well.
Finally, Schapelle is not responsible for all the media attention she gets, the media are, so please don’t blame her for the constant newspaper articles, internet, radio and TV coverage. She is once again the innocent victim here as well.
Please support her bid for freedom. Thank you so much.
Schapelle Corby is seriously mentally ill. I know this because I have known the Corby family for 25 years and have visited Schapelle in prison on several occasions. I have seen her deterioration and her insanity for myself. She is not faking it, and she will die if she is not returned to Australia for proper psychiatric treatment.
Aside from the intimate knowledge that I have, through my friendship with the Corby family, I have also researched her case extensively for 3 years and I know she is innocent, without a doubt. She was judged guilty, by a panel of 3 Judges, none of whom had ever acquitted a defendant in their entire careers. Chief Judge Linton Sirait actually boasted, at the beginning of Schapelle’s sham trial, that he had never found a defendant innocent in his 500 previous drug related cases. The law of averages alone tells you that he must have sent several other innocent people to prison as well.
Her 20 year sentence was grossly excessive, far in excess of the sentences handed down for other, and often worse, drugs crimes in Indonesia, not to mention murder and rape.
Schapelle is a lovely person and the rest of her family are great people, despite the mistaken impression you may all have about them, having seen them on TV behaving badly (as we would also do, if we were under the pressures they are under).
Right now, Schapelle needs her countrymen to help her, and it’s all about Mateship, the once honoured Australian tradition of helping our Mates when they are down on their luck. As such, I say to all those happy to let her rot - “Take a serious look at yourself. You have lost your empathy and your humanity,” and too many have - a sad indictment of Australian society in the 21st century.
I'm sure these people would think differently if she were their daughter, sister or best friend. I'm also sure that if they were in her shoes, the innocent victim of someone else’s crime, they would expect their countrymen to help them as well.
Finally, Schapelle is not responsible for all the media attention she gets, the media are, so please don’t blame her for the constant newspaper articles, internet, radio and TV coverage. She is once again the innocent victim here as well.
Please support her bid for freedom. Thank you so much.
Been to Bali and the Aussie locals i spoke to there say different.
They maybe just rumours but why would another aussie put an aussie down?
Very corrupt place any taxi driver will tell you that.
The whole place is about bartering.
Tho the sentence is harsh in comparision to other crimes i feel she's not inocent as you say.
Innocent or not the system is corrupt.
I have an Aussie friend who has lived in Bali for 30 years, is married to a Javanese lady, and has 2 adult children.
I asked him what would happen if, hypothetically, one of his children was picked up for drug dealing or use.
He stated that the police would visit him at his house to ask what could possibly be done to ease the embarrassment to the legal system and to his family. Failing that he would receive a similar visit by a judge or a representative of the judge.
The motive for the visit is an obvious one.
Schapelle Corby is seriously mentally ill. I know this because I have known the Corby family for 25 years and have visited Schapelle in prison on several occasions. I have seen her deterioration and her insanity for myself. She is not faking it, and she will die if she is not returned to Australia for proper psychiatric treatment.
Aside from the intimate knowledge that I have, through my friendship with the Corby family, I have also researched her case extensively for 3 years and I know she is innocent, without a doubt. She was judged guilty, by a panel of 3 Judges, none of whom had ever acquitted a defendant in their entire careers. Chief Judge Linton Sirait actually boasted, at the beginning of Schapelle’s sham trial, that he had never found a defendant innocent in his 500 previous drug related cases. The law of averages alone tells you that he must have sent several other innocent people to prison as well.
Her 20 year sentence was grossly excessive, far in excess of the sentences handed down for other, and often worse, drugs crimes in Indonesia, not to mention murder and rape.
Schapelle is a lovely person and the rest of her family are great people, despite the mistaken impression you may all have about them, having seen them on TV behaving badly (as we would also do, if we were under the pressures they are under).
Right now, Schapelle needs her countrymen to help her, and it’s all about Mateship, the once honoured Australian tradition of helping our Mates when they are down on their luck. As such, I say to all those happy to let her rot - “Take a serious look at yourself. You have lost your empathy and your humanity,” and too many have - a sad indictment of Australian society in the 21st century.
I'm sure these people would think differently if she were their daughter, sister or best friend. I'm also sure that if they were in her shoes, the innocent victim of someone else’s crime, they would expect their countrymen to help them as well.
Finally, Schapelle is not responsible for all the media attention she gets, the media are, so please don’t blame her for the constant newspaper articles, internet, radio and TV coverage. She is once again the innocent victim here as well.
Please support her bid for freedom. Thank you so much.
I fail to see what your little story has to do with Schapelle Corby's guilt or innocence. You are guilty of relativism.
The good people of Bali, awake, live and go to bed under this system, they are born, live and die, and seem to do reasonably well, paying off corrupt police as they go. It is their way and their system.
If an Australian or a Javaustralian falls foul of this system, then that is bad luck, rather like being caught speeding or not wearing a bicycle helmet in Australia. You need to harden up a bit mate.
gg
Sounds as though you know Bali intimately. I've only been visiting since 1983.
However, shudder, you may not comprehend relativism [or my post] quite as well.
I will have to bow to your knowledge of Bali, as I've never been there. Isn't relativism when you relate a story about a hypothetical situation occurring to some third parties relatives?
I'm sorry if I misconstrued your post. I thought you were implying that because Bali is corrupt that all Australians or Javaustralians caught with weed were defacto innocent. Or guilty unless they paid a bribe.
gg
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