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Schapelle Corby - Innocent or Guilty?

Considering the latest news, do you believe Schapelle Corby is innocent?

  • No, not any more

    Votes: 49 13.0%
  • No, never have

    Votes: 184 48.7%
  • Yes, always have and still do

    Votes: 80 21.2%
  • I don't care. Show me the stocks!

    Votes: 65 17.2%

  • Total voters
    378
Perhaps what I should have said, "If you come from the wrong side of the tracks you can better understand those from the wrong side of the tracks" And here it seems most are from the good side, born with a silver spoon.


Not me ..fought every inch and got lucky with some hard work and innovative thinking also.

I didnt smuggle dope into Bali along the way tho.

Ignore those petty comments .Not worth the typespace

haveaniceday
 
My purpose here is for us to consider every individual in society, not matter how bad, to be seen still to have some potential, this is also one of the principles for rehabilitation.
I like your idealism, Explod. In our cynical society we need idealists.
But believing the best about people can't reasonably be allowed to blind us to their asocial intent.
If you take your philosophy to the nth degree, you'd be believing that e.g. paedophiles like Denis Ferguson could one day be a model member of society.

Thanks for the questions Julia. It is always good to have your oversight, and hope this helps.

The response is appreciated, Explod, but I'm still no wiser about what are "itinerant drug problems" (itinerant meaning 'wandering') and how the Iraq war cleaned these from the New York streets.

And still puzzled about the relevance to Schapelle Corby.
 

Thanks for the response, I hadn't seen or heard of the article. Interesting how the war created job opportunities for itinerants. Horrible to think of it as a means of creating employment, cleaning up the cities and stimulating the economy.
 
The response is appreciated, Explod, but I'm still no wiser about what are "itinerant drug problems" (itinerant meaning 'wandering') and how the Iraq war cleaned these from the New York streets.

You have to excuse every second post by Explod because like all "good" Coppers if they cannot find the evidence to support their assumptions/beliefs they just make it up!!

Explod,

NYC's crime rate and drug problems, ie murders, drug arrests etc, have been in a continual fall since 1990. There is debate about the cause but its fair to say its been a mix of three things,
1 increasing of Policing.
2 legalization of abortion in the seventies, as many of the would be neglected children and criminals were never born.
3. demographic change. Clearly a crack addict cannot afford a Condo on Park Ave.

NOT because the military rounded up all the crack heads and shipped them off to Iraq. In fact since 2001 the military has seen a bigger increase from well educated high earning demographics,and a FALL from both the African American population and from Suburban/city population. Most increases have come from the complete opposite of your "itinerant druggies", the stats on increases in military service since 2001 makes your comment stink like BS, again!!

 
Thanks for the response, I hadn't seen or heard of the article. Interesting how the war created job opportunities for itinerants. Horrible to think of it as a means of creating employment, cleaning up the cities.

It didn't.
 
You have to excuse every second post by Explod because like all "good" Coppers if they cannot find the evidence to support their assumptions/beliefs they just make it up!!

How do you know that, and on the reference to both?

And whilst we are off topic, what is the meaning of BS, you seem to use it a lot old Son.
 
Back on the topic of Schapelle Corby.
Heard the latest? (certainly not the lastest)
Applying for clemency due to insanity.lol
What next?
 
Schapelle Corby is seriously mentally ill. I know this because I have known the Corby family for 25 years and have visited Schapelle in prison on several occasions. I have seen her deterioration and her insanity for myself. She is not faking it, and she will die if she is not returned to Australia for proper psychiatric treatment.

Aside from the intimate knowledge that I have, through my friendship with the Corby family, I have also researched her case extensively for 3 years and I know she is innocent, without a doubt. She was judged guilty, by a panel of 3 Judges, none of whom had ever acquitted a defendant in their entire careers. Chief Judge Linton Sirait actually boasted, at the beginning of Schapelle’s sham trial, that he had never found a defendant innocent in his 500 previous drug related cases. The law of averages alone tells you that he must have sent several other innocent people to prison as well.

Her 20 year sentence was grossly excessive, far in excess of the sentences handed down for other, and often worse, drugs crimes in Indonesia, not to mention murder and rape.

Schapelle is a lovely person and the rest of her family are great people, despite the mistaken impression you may all have about them, having seen them on TV behaving badly (as we would also do, if we were under the pressures they are under).

Right now, Schapelle needs her countrymen to help her, and it’s all about Mateship, the once honoured Australian tradition of helping our Mates when they are down on their luck. As such, I say to all those happy to let her rot - “Take a serious look at yourself. You have lost your empathy and your humanity,” and too many have - a sad indictment of Australian society in the 21st century.

I'm sure these people would think differently if she were their daughter, sister or best friend. I'm also sure that if they were in her shoes, the innocent victim of someone else’s crime, they would expect their countrymen to help them as well.

Finally, Schapelle is not responsible for all the media attention she gets, the media are, so please don’t blame her for the constant newspaper articles, internet, radio and TV coverage. She is once again the innocent victim here as well.

Please support her bid for freedom. Thank you so much.
 
Please support her bid for freedom. Thank you so much.

I wonder if this could be classed as spam:.

I don't think so, her and her family have made their bed so they can lie in it now as far as I'm concerned.

No doubt once she is released she will make a miraculous recovery and become something of a B grade celeb in Aust.
 

Sorry mate, but if you know THAT family you sure as hell have some thing WRONG with you as well, only 9000 sleeps more, and I for one, want to see every one of them spent in Indonesia.
 

Been to Bali and the Aussie locals i spoke to there say different.
They maybe just rumours but why would another aussie put an aussie down?
Very corrupt place any taxi driver will tell you that.
The whole place is about bartering.
Tho the sentence is harsh in comparision to other crimes i feel she's not inocent as you say.
 
Honorable, are you for real???, the family, can you name one of them that the police have NOT investigated, hell man if this is your idea of a lovely family, I would hate to run in to what you would call a bad family.
You talk about the media, hay mate, it was HER family that was SELLING the story's to them. only 9000 more sleeps to go and she will be home.
 
I wondered how long it would take for this thread to burst back to life with impassioned pleas for her release from well meaning (?) posters with inside knowledge on her innocence and/or sanity(?).

"Please support her bid for freedom. Thank you so much. " Not a chance.
 

Innocent or not the system is corrupt.
I have an Aussie friend who has lived in Bali for 30 years, is married to a Javanese lady, and has 2 adult children.
I asked him what would happen if, hypothetically, one of his children was picked up for drug dealing or use.
He stated that the police would visit him at his house to ask what could possibly be done to ease the embarrassment to the legal system and to his family. Failing that he would receive a similar visit by a judge or a representative of the judge.
The motive for the visit is an obvious one.
 

I fail to see what your little story has to do with Schapelle Corby's guilt or innocence. You are guilty of relativism.

The good people of Bali, awake, live and go to bed under this system, they are born, live and die, and seem to do reasonably well, paying off corrupt police as they go. It is their way and their system.

If an Australian or a Javaustralian falls foul of this system, then that is bad luck, rather like being caught speeding or not wearing a bicycle helmet in Australia. You need to harden up a bit mate.

gg
 

bohoooo, cry me a river. she should be happy she didn't end up in front of the firing squad!
 

Sounds as though you know Bali intimately. I've only been visiting since 1983.

However, shudder, you may not comprehend relativism [or my post] quite as well.
 
Sounds as though you know Bali intimately. I've only been visiting since 1983.

However, shudder, you may not comprehend relativism [or my post] quite as well.

I will have to bow to your knowledge of Bali, as I've never been there. Isn't relativism when you relate a story about a hypothetical situation occurring to some third parties relatives?

I'm sorry if I misconstrued your post. I thought you were implying that because Bali is corrupt that all Australians or Javaustralians caught with weed were defacto innocent. Or guilty unless they paid a bribe.

gg
 

Thank you GG. I was simply relating the view of a long time Balinese resident. I have no idea whether SC is innocent or guilty.

At the same time I should not have reacted to your last post impulsively. Apologies.

Rick
 
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