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Sarah Palin: The Barracuda

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ZzzzDad said:
We have been successful
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... in losing 5,000 of your finest combat soldiers, blown to smithereens on dirt tracks fighting a hopeless guerilla war. That is nearly double the number of US citizens killed in 9/11 at a ratio of two soldiers to one investment banker. They don't have to spend money infiltrating America when they can just pick your troops off in palm groves much closer to home.

...in killing 100,000 Iraqis, most of whom had never heard of Al Q'aeda. Well done. Those that have lost loved ones to the 'American Imperialists' will grow up hating your society. Violence begets violence. Add that to the 2m Vietnamese and Laotians your society killed when infected by fear over the 'Domino Effect'.

... in selling your Treasury bills on mass to the Saudis, the Singaporeans, the Chinese and the Russians and spending the money on a glorious 'victory' over Iraqis. What on earth? There I thought they were the impediments to your society assuming centre stage in the world?
 

These fine 4,000 soldiers were all volunteers. Most of them signed up wanting to take the fight to the enemy in their country, so that they couldn't build up the capacity to hit us here again, next time causing possibly tens of thousands of lives. The war is not hopeless, we are winning, or haven't you heard? The media has suddenly lost interest since the war turned so favorable after the surge.

Most of those innocent Iraqis and Afghanis were killed by fanatical suicide bombers trying to foment civil war in Iraq, to cause chaos, and get us to leave. Their tactic didn't work. These suicide bombers purposely blew up tens of thousands of innocent Iraqis and Afghanis. Markets, schools, neighborhoods, nothing was off limits to them.

These people are brutal, and you are making excuses for them. They have found out America is no longer a paper tiger. We did not turn tail and retreat. That is how you defeat an enemy, and show them that there will be consequences. I am very proud of what America, Australia, the U.K., the Polish, and many other allies have done in Iraq and Afghanistan. No apologies. We did the right thing.
 
I just saw the summary of the Palin interview on SBS - wahh, she is scarey dumb. The interviewer gave her a hartd time and the Palin responses were definately not very well though out. "War with Russia?" - "sure, if that's what it takes"

"Enter Pakistan, uninvited?" "anything that is required to get the terrorists"
 

too right i just watched it too roland
what a power crazy biatch
shes bush in disguise but with bigger attitude!
glass houses!
 
I wonder if any of these people understand the consequences of war with Russia?

I wonder if any of these people understand that they are condemning Russia for the sort of actions they do themselves regularly.

Eat, drink and be merry folks, for tomorrow we die. The cold war is back and we have really dumb people in charge.
 
Zzzz feel a little guilty dissecting your comments as defending the Iraq war makes you a soft target, BTW I supported before the invasion but feel horrified at the deception and how easily I was sucked in.

Hindsight is wonderful



Yes your troops are the finest young men and women and deserve total support. General Petraeus has made the impossible happen.



this is where it gets sticky, US military invading killed innumerable amounts of civilians, collateral damage, its a part of war but unnecessary all the same I believe you are still ahead in pure numbers.


AAhhh no they only turned up because of the invasion no other reason they were not there before and no we didn't do the right thing in the end our war kill x tens of thousands more than Saddam ever did history will not look kindly on our actions just like Vietnam its those fine young men and women who will take the brunt losing life, arms legs and in many cases their minds.

I have family from the Vietnam war they will never recover and for what?

They went for the same BS your hero politician's sprout now, Palin is very naive if she truly understood the horrors of war not to mention the current pointless reasons her son would not be going.
 
If terrorism is the result of us (Australia and the USA etc.) invading another country then why are there no Vietnamese terrorists?
 
Timmy said:
If terrorism is the result of us (Australia and the USA etc.) invading another country then why are there no Vietnamese terrorists?
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As usual you have inserted some sanity into the debate. The American haters have been attracted to this thread like flies to a honeypot. I suppose GG knew this would happen when he opened the thread. It makes sense if they confine their venom to one site and leave other threads to rational debaters, but of course they wont.
 
Timmy said:
If terrorism is the result of us (Australia and the USA etc.) invading another country then why are there no Vietnamese terrorists?
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Fighting terrorism is one thing, the perpetrator of 9/11 Asama was in Afghanistan how was invading Iraq fighting terrorism?
 
wayneL said:
I wonder if any of these people understand the consequences of war with Russia?

...The cold war is back and we have really dumb people in charge.
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I'm thinking it simply confirms Putin's claims that the GOP were behind the entire Georgian incident -

..... really dumb people , who also happen to be really cunning
 
2020hindsight said:
I'm thinking it simply confirms Putin's claims that the GOP were behind the entire Georgian incident -

..... really dumb people , who also happen to be really cunning
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The Russians won't be happy 2020.

They have long memories.

Never ever call them really dumb, or cunning.

You might end up with a cube of polonium 210 rather than a non sugar sweetener in your Saturday morning latte.

gg
 
And nothing was off limits to the Americans and their allies, when they invaded/bombed Afghanistan and Iraq. I still feel sick when I remember GWB's voice saying they would experience "Shock and Awe"! And we saw the night sky lit up over both countries with the bombs.

And now there is all the rumbling about Iran having nuclear capacity, or almost. Why do I have a sense of deja vu?
The invasion of Iraq has solved nothing. It was done on a manufactured premise. But it has killed and maimed thousands of innocent people.
Why wouldn't the people from that part of the world regard America (and her allies) with fear, loathing and suspicion?

How would we in Australia feel if some country from the other side of the world bombed us almost out of existence? Those of you who are supporting what America has done are seeming to neglect any consideration of how much the lives of ordinary Afghanis and Iraquis have been devastated.

Up until now, I've had no feelings for wanting either side in America to win the coming election, but when I hear some of the remarks from Ms Palin (who wouldn't be saying what she does were the comments not sanctioned by her party), I very much hope Obama will become the President.
 
ABC coup interview with Palin.

Palin on Energy and Climate Change:

"John McCain and I are working on it..."

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5785679


Does Palin agree with the Bush Doctrine? ... ( or how to answer when you do not understand a question!)

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5786856


Palin Fact Check from her interview:

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5786925


Pundits break down Palin interview:

Three times Charlie asked her a simple question about invading an ally... and she gave her rote reply.

http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=5787036

BTW:
Anne Kornblut writes in The Washington Post:

"Gov. Sarah Palin linked the war in Iraq with the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, telling an Iraq-bound brigade of soldiers that included her son that they would 'defend the innocent from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the death of thousands of Americans,' "

"The idea that the Iraqi government under Saddam Hussein helped al-Qaeda plan the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, a view once promoted by Bush administration officials, has since been rejected even by the president himself."
 


About the deaths attributed to Iraq war (both Americans and Iraqis), I doubt if Bush gives a damn. He doesn't even have the decency to justify the war anymore.

Weapons of mass destruction and terrorism were unsubstantiated. His main motive is to secure the oil fields.

And the whereabouts of Treasury bills matter little to Bush. If you want to redemn it tomorrow, just print out more money to cover the obligation and if you want to dump it, even better, you suffer a heavy loss and it becomes almost worthless.

Everything comes full circle as the money goes back to America through Treasury bills, they spend it, and these countries use it to purchase more bills. Sweet little scam.
 
First part of Palin ABC interview:


I sympathize with Charlie... so patient and tolerant but frustrated!

She sounds like a politician... has her rote answer ready regardless of the question... pretending to be wise.

She tries hard but is such a try-hard! Only in Hollywood! .... ooops... I mean... America!


 
I despair for the western world.

We're ****ed.
 
Please vote for Obama, America.

The alternative is unthinkable.

(i.e. the lesser of two evils)
 
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